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Tips on beatmatching for a newby? (pg. 15)
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| Apeattack |
| quote: | Originally posted by djkatmaus
What you posted is pretty sad, and indicates you views towards the human race. If you cannot think for yourself, do things for yourself, than you might as well dig a hole and bury yourself.
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Please cite examples where society has rejected new automation technologies (after a refinement period, of course)? Perhaps there are a few specific cases, but history shows that society, in general, adopts new automation technology whenever possible. Look at the Black Friday in a few days... people will be camping out on Thursday evening outside of stores across America eagerly awaiting their opportunity to obtain the latest electric appliance when the stores open. |
Automation does not have to be thought of as negative. Would you reject electric washing machines, refrigerators, computers, etc.? If the individual harnesses new technology properly, he/she will have more free time to pursue individual interests. Look at the amount of information available to people online now compared to the mid-90s when the internet started taking off. It is up to the individual to utilize these new tools though.
I choose to not view the auto-sync button as negative, but rather as a tool that frees up valuable seconds to work on other aspects of DJing (transitions, loading the next songs, interacting with the crowd, using effects, etc.). If you feel otherwise, that's fine. We all have different viewpoints of what a DJ should do.
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FYI, most software designers are indeed hackers themselves. |
I know quite a few software designers and none are malicious hackers. That is, they might try to change their Blackberry into a Crackberry, but they never would try to hack into a website (probably more for fear of being arrested than for moral reasons).
Perhaps you are hanging out with a different crowd of software designers... from the bad side of the tracks. |
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| djkatmaus |
Perhaps your fantasyland has gone to your head. My friends work for major companies who specialize in both platforms. Fear of being arrested. You are delirious. They developed it, they know how to hide and manipulate it.
Two last points of your almighty computer. Mysterious missile lanuches over LA, and ocean liner stranded in the Pacific for a week. Pretty sad. Looks like your computer will start WW3 before a human will.
N3lly, feel free to lock this at anytime. Obviously this guy believes in unemployment, feels the almighty computer is gonna do everything for him, and would prefer being touched by a robot than a woman. |
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| Apeattack |
| quote: | Originally posted by djkatmaus
Perhaps your fantasyland has gone to your head. My friends work for major companies who specialize in both platforms. Fear of being arrested. You are delirious. They developed it, they know how to hide and manipulate it.
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So you are saying that you have friends who work for major companies that are malicious hackers?
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Two last points of your almighty computer. Mysterious missile lanuches over LA, and ocean liner stranded in the Pacific for a week. Pretty sad. Looks like your computer will start WW3 before a human will. |
Total non-sequitors. Not relevant to the conversation.
| quote: | | N3lly, feel free to lock this at anytime. Obviously this guy believes in unemployment, feels the almighty computer is gonna do everything for him, and would prefer being touched by a robot than a woman. |
If other people do not agree with my vision of the future of DJing, that's fine. But let's try to keep it civil.
Instead of trying to refute my statements with examples and logic (or simply agreeing to disagree), you are lashing out randomly. I have no idea why you are getting so upset over this topic. I have made no personal attacks against you nor anyone else on this thread. |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| just give it a rest Apeattack |
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| Rodri Santos |
| quote: | Originally posted by Apeattack
If by 'program a set' you mean 'create a set' then I totally agree (I'm not sure if you are talking about creating a computer 'program' that can create a set). There are many DJs who never take the time to study how successful DJs construct sets. |
yes yes, program as a verb i wrote the noun. How sucessful djs build a set is not exactly the best way, some djs have an angelical aura envelope and people worship them even if they play their dog vomiting, but for me it's more important to mix cohesive tracks, introducing different styles into a mix and in short making it flow.
Most djs i see don't have any clue about this, 128 bpm is a real standard bpm but you can have techno tracks, house tracks, some hip hop tracks and trance tracks.
If you play a fluffy trance track after that dirty techno, then progressive house and uplifting trance this is a ing mess, the mix shouldn't have big ups and downs.
Would be more logical: Fluffy trance->Progressive House-> Techno and preferably play some of each style and use a bridge tune to change to another style, i hate RnB->House->Pop->Techno it's a weird combination i hear so often and raise you to fall deeper. |
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| Apeattack |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodri Santos
Would be more logical: Fluffy trance->Progressive House-> Techno
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Going softer to harder can be good. Out of curiosity, what bpm do you associate each of these genres with?
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i hate RnB->House->Pop->Techno it's a weird combination i hear so often and raise you to fall deeper. |
Hehe... In the past I have done a four hour
RnB/hiphop -> progressive house/pop -> progressive trance
set at a lounge because everyone has a wide range of musical tastes. The set partially satisfied everyone.
Although I much prefer to mix progressive house/trance exclusively, a gig is a gig. |
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| Rodri Santos |
Fluffy trance 130-132 bpm. vocals, unicorns and something between pop, house and trance.
Progressive House 128 bpm mostly
Techno: Usually below 128 , tech-house mostly real techno is faster. As all of them move in similar bpm brackets you can have all of them in a mix without much hassle. In a 4 hour set you can play whatever you want for 2 hours and still have time to raise a set from 125 bpm to 170 if you wish. Not the best idea though i think people who like slow stuff won't think the same about 170 bpm schranz and viceversa. |
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| Apeattack |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodri Santos
Fluffy trance 130-132 bpm. vocals, unicorns and something between pop, house and trance.
Progressive House 128 bpm mostly
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Those are the same bpm ranges that I think of too.
I tend to favor progressive house before fluffy trance because progressive house feels slower and less intense to me. The buildups in prog house usually aren't as extreme as in trance and I feel like I can draw the crowd in more easily with prog house at the beginning of a set. Additionally, I like to increase the bpm as my set progresses (unless it is super long, in which case I may bring the bpm down for a bit before raising it back up). Going from 128 to 130-132 makes more sense to me, but it is just a personal preference.
Song selection is everything, of course.
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Techno: Usually below 128 , tech-house mostly real techno is faster. |
Ah, I thought you were talking about regular techno, which I associate with a much higher bpm than fluffy trance and prog house. |
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| Rodri Santos |
| yes, European techno is completely different to Detroit's regular , but well for the example is the same with technology you can cover a 10bpm gap but house and after that 140 bpm techno... oh my god this would sound awful. |
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| Voci |
Tbh apeattack. Whats funny is this.
Music productions = zero profit.
Producer has to DJ = some profit.
Automation makes DJ disappear.
No profit = no new music, only bedroom hobby stuff. Is that the future of dance-music? |
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