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Tips on beatmatching for a newby? (pg. 7)
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| Apeattack |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodri Santos
if you can beatmatch you aren't a good dj solely because of this, those laptop wannabes you see in local clubs often don't have any clue about the eqs, phrases, fxs and keep redlining the mixer all the night, there are some things that you've to learn with practice, and with the autosync button people think they can play for a night in a club and can't. |
The opposite is not true either... in 2010, being a 'good' DJ does not mean you can beatmatch (based on my definition of a 'good' DJ).
Eh, this debate keeps going in circles because we all have different standards for what a 'good' EDM DJ does. For me, an EDM DJ did well if he/she forms a seemless mix that sounds 'good' to the club patrons regardless if he/she uses an autosync button.
Never forget that the average patron at an EDM club only cares about two things:
(1) Song selection: Patrons have to like the songs and the songs have to go well together. They may like song A at 130 bpm and keycode 12A, and song B at 140 bpm and keycode 2A, but putting them next to each other in a set is usually not going to sound 'good.'
(2) Good transitions: Finding good transition points and EQing well so that the songs form a seemless mix.
If manually beatmatching is part of your definition of a 'good' DJ, that's fine. But club patrons will not care if you manually beatmatch or autosync... they just won't.
I choose to spend the seconds I save by autosync'ing making sure the EQ'ing goes more smoothly. |
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| Apeattack |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Pushing a button is not a skill. You are not a DJ. Sit down. |
So to you, is beatmatching all that a DJ does? |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Apeattack
So to you, is beatmatching all that a DJ does? |
I'm pretty sure I've said nothing of the sort. |
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| Apeattack |
| quote: | Originally posted by stealthman
Let's say you spilt coffee all over your flimsy midi controller/laptop and had vinyl/CDJ as a last resort. Would you still have more skill than the average DJ with minimum 2 years experience on vinyl/CDJ or would you run for the nearest sync button. You are not a DJ. Piss off. |
The Numark Omni Control certainly is not flimsy. You should read a review about it.
Beatmatching on a good CDJ is just one notch above pushing a button. You have a digital readout of the bpm and have 0.02% pitch control... pretty simple to beatmatch with those tools.
Vinyl+turntable would be much more difficult for me but c'mon... vinyl is dead. I haven't seen someone use vinyl in a club in over two years. |
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| Apeattack |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I'm pretty sure I've said nothing of the sort. |
You said:
"Pushing a button is not a skill. You are not a DJ. Sit down."
Whoops... technically you are correct. I thought you implied more than you did. Please provide a list of skills someone MUST have to be considered a true DJ. |
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| Apeattack |
| quote: | Originally posted by brucelee6783
Lol what? |
His CDJs only have 1% pitch control :D |
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| Apeattack |
| quote: | Originally posted by stealthman
Learn with vinyl. End of story. |
Sew with a loom, grind your own wheat to make bread, crank your car, learn to write with quill and ink. End of story.
About time to move away from a technology developed in the 1920s. It's 2010 already. |
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| Mad for Brad |
| All producers should just slightly vary their tempo on their tracks just to with people that can't do it. |
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| RyanVice |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Ah, the internet - where any idiot can pretend to be anything. |
Evidenced by your 'mixes' lol |
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| Apeattack |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mad for Brad
All producers should just slightly vary their tempo on their tracks just to with people that can't do it. |
The autosync'ers would just keep hitting the sync button during transitions... not a problem. |
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| brucelee6783 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Apeattack
His CDJs only have 1% pitch control :D |
Lol you can't change it to at least 4 or 8%?
Worthless. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Apeattack
Whoops... technically you are correct. I thought you implied more than you did. Please provide a list of skills someone MUST have to be considered a true DJ. |
There's only two things, really - track selection and mixing. If you're only doing one of these things you're just a jukebox.
| quote: | Originally posted by RyanVice
Evidenced by your 'mixes' lol |
You really suck at comebacks, you know? |
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