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I think Keith Olbermann is pretty awesome (pg. 4)
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| PvDoBseSSioN |
| i actually do audio for his show.... and tonight was free olbermann pizza and cupcake night like every friday! |
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| ZeJayMan |
| blah blah ing blah |
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| WhooCares |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
LESS GOVERNMENT!
(except for abortion and drugs, WHY WONT THE GOVERNMENT DO MORE ABOUT THESE SCOURGES!) |
u forgot religion! |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
I'd post a rebuttal of stupid bat- crazy statements that Democrats have made in the last year (such has Georgia Congressman Hank Johnson saying he feared if Guam became too populated, the island might capsize), but I don't have the requisite 6 hours available for something like that.
All I will say is this: not a single Democrat is running on their record; not Obamacare, not Cap and Trade, not the Stimulus or any of the bank and insurance company bailout measures they voted for; some are openly running away from Obama's agenda. They have pathetically resorted to only distractive negative personal attacks as a last resort of desperation... all championed by the King of vile hate, Keith Olberdouche. |
what would you do if the majority of the electorate were too damn stupid to understand complex social & economic phenomena? well done america, tea party idiocy is so widespread that it is political suicide to make reasoned and rational debate, where slogans encapsulate everything one needs to know about political reality. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| Meh, I would not go so far as to believe the Tea Party's boasts about how they are going to take back the government and all that. A few Dem seats are in trouble, sure, but I don't think the Tea Partiers are going to get quite the route they are hoping for. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Yes yes... however let's look at things in context.
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oh really?
The17sss Still Wrong on What’s Driving Deficits in Coming Years
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The events and policies that have pushed deficits to these high levels in the near term, however, were largely outside the new Administration’s control. If not for the tax cuts enacted during the presidency of George W. Bush that Congress did not pay for, the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that were initiated during that period, and the effects of the worst economic slump since the Great Depression (including the cost of steps necessary to combat it), we would not be facing these huge deficits in the near term. |
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3036 |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
what would you do if the majority of the electorate were too damn stupid to understand complex social & economic phenomena? well done america, tea party idiocy is so widespread that it is political suicide to make reasoned and rational debate, where slogans encapsulate everything one needs to know about political reality. |
| quote: | | Loading the Language. The group interprets or uses words and phrases in new ways so that often the outside world does not understand. This jargon consists of thought-terminating clichés, which serve to alter members' thought processes to conform to the group's way of thinking. |
http://www.csj.org/studyindex/study...dctr_lifton.htm
Home of the glassy-eyed cult members. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Then I hope that you realize as you lay hurt that maybe taxes are a good thing because it would have saved your stupid ass from having to be mugged or stabbed, or whatever happens. |
you mean one of the 7 million+ who have lost their jobs since Obama took office? worst fear mongering rationalization for tax increases ever btw.
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
what would you do if the majority of the electorate were too damn stupid to understand complex social & economic phenomena? well done america, tea party idiocy is so widespread that it is political suicide to make reasoned and rational debate, where slogans encapsulate everything one needs to know about political reality. |
You mean vacuous slogans like "yes we can" and "hope and change"? ;)
It's a mistake... this new theme being propagated by the Left that Americans are just too dumb to see the brilliance of the Washington elites leadership mastery. No no no, it CAN'T have anything to do with their policies- because they are the masters and we mere subjects who just can't take care of ourselves without the guidance of Big Brother's benevolent hand.
My man Charles K sums it up great right here:
| quote: | Faced with this truly puzzling conundrum, Dr. Obama diagnoses a heretofore undiscovered psychological derangement: anxiety-induced Obama Underappreciation Syndrome, wherein an entire population is so addled by its economic anxieties as to be neurologically incapable of appreciating the "facts and science" undergirding Obamacare and the other blessings their president has bestowed upon them from on high.
I have a better explanation. Better because it adheres to the ultimate scientific principle, Occam's Razor, by which the preferred explanation for any phenomenon is the one with the most economy and simplicity. And there is nothing simpler than the Gallup findings on the ideological inclinations of the American people. Conservative: 42 percent. Moderate: 35 percent. Liberal: 20 percent. No fanciful new syndromes or other elaborate fictions are required to understand that if you try to impose a liberal agenda on such a demonstrably center-right country -- a country that is 80 percent non-liberal -- you get a massive backlash.
Moreover, apart from ideology is empirical reality. Even as we speak, the social-democratic model Obama is openly and boldly trying to move America toward is unraveling in Europe. It's not just the real prospect of financial collapse in Greece, Spain, Portugal and Ireland, with even the relatively more stable major countries in severe distress. It is the visible moral collapse of a system that, after two generations of increasing cradle-to-grave infantilization, turns millions of citizens into the streets of France in furious and often violent protest over what? Over raising the retirement age from 60 to 62!
Having seen this display of what can only be called decadence, Obama's perfectly wired electorate says no, not us, not here. The peasants have seen the future -- Greece and France -- and concluded that it does not work. Hence their opposition to Obama's proudly transformational New Foundation agenda. Their logic is impeccable: Only the most blinkered intellectual could be attempting to introduce social democracy to America precisely when the world's foremost exemplar of that model -- Europe -- is in chaotic meltdown. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
You mean vacuous slogans like "yes we can" and "hope and change"? ;) |
fair point, however i also think obama brought rational discourse to the table, and sound analysis and reasoned ideology. now, he could've been wtf ing wrong about everything, but i didn't find his ideas and positions an insult to my intelligence.
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
It's a mistake... this new theme being propagated by the Left that Americans are just too dumb to see the brilliance of the Washington elites leadership mastery. |
i never said these so-called "elites" were brilliant. i said the americans encapsulated by the tea party are too stupid to understand social or economic or political realities. im not supporting democrats or republicans, im just pointing out that the tea party candidates are ing morons.
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
No no no, it CAN'T have anything to do with their policies- because they are the masters and we mere subjects who just can't take care of ourselves without the guidance of Big Brother's benevolent hand. |
tea party candidates definitely can't take care of themselves, let alone the country or its inhabitants. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
Well, it isn't so much a left or right thing. Plenty of right-wingers are part of the highly educated cognitive elite, too. The difference is that they hate to admit it in public because they like to give off an aura of populism to appeal to the (unfortunately rather large) crowd that shuns all that liberal effeminate college book-larnin'.
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[Remember a certain political personality's derisive "professor of law at the LECTERN!" remark?] |
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| LiquidX |
What ticks me off is the hypocrisy of the republicans to say crap when they crapped all over the past 8 years... what did they get done ?
THey also bash the Health Care when on of their own, Mitt Romney, did the exact same thing for the state of Massachusetts. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
fair point, however i also think obama brought rational discourse to the table, and sound analysis and reasoned ideology. now, he could've been wtf ing wrong about everything, but i didn't find his ideas and positions an insult to my intelligence. |
It appeared that way; what he said on the campaign trail and how he's acted with his oppostion is completely different; there is no compromise unless you go along with him. Watch man- when Clinton got taken to the woodshed in the 1994 midterms, he declared "the era of big government and welfare is over", and drifted to the center. Obama is already saying it's going to be non-stop hand to hand combat. Rather than showing humility and saying, "well the people have spoken clearly..." he is saying "The new Republicans will have to learn to compromise with ME". What!?
| quote: | | i never said these so-called "elites" were brilliant. i said the americans encapsulated by the tea party are too stupid to understand social or economic or political realities. im not supporting democrats or republicans, im just pointing out that the tea party candidates are ing morons. |
Well I don't expect many of them to be the next Thomas Friedman, but the people know when their income and opportunity are being reduced by punitive taxation and regulation. As for the candidates themselves, yes some are clearly dips- but those won't get elected anyway. No way Christine O'Donnell wins.
| quote: | | tea party candidates definitely can't take care of themselves, let alone the country or its inhabitants. |
That's not their mindset though- they aren't trying to take care of the masses a la entitlements; they want to help the masses be able to take care of themselves. You know, the whole give a fish/teach a man to fish thing. Let them succeed or fail on their own accord... equal opportunity not equal outcomes. |
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