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what are your unpopular opinions on electronica, not giving a f? (pg. 7)
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Think of it this way, what would happen if an up and comer put out the same kind of stuff that TP does, and what if they mixed like he did? Nobody would pay any attention to them at all, other than possibly saying that they possess poor mixing skills.
Theo is only able to do what he does because of his name, and his history. It's "cool" or "edgy" or "retro." It reminds me of that video where the girl defecates all over a canvas and then a room full of hipsters applaud as if she were Monet.
I guess it's kind of like abstract expressionism. People might think Jackson Pollock was an artistic genius, but it still just looks like a bunch of paint splattered randomly on canvas to me.  |
You're an idiot. There are plenty of people out there who don't see dance music as restrictively and arrogantly as you. Many of whom have a say in what does and what doesn't get pressed on vinyl/released on beatport. |
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| srussell0018 |
Yeah I'm so arrogant for seeing poorly mixed sets as being poorly mixed. I don't eat a plate of just because somebody tells me it's a gourmet meal.
Ad hominem attacks towards someone with differing opinions than you just reeks of desperation. I can give you objective reasons why his mixing is poor. All you need to do is listen to a set of his. Fader slams, poorly programmed sets, sloppy transitions. It's not technically skilled mixing.
Calling me an idiot for not liking it only proves that you don't really have a leg to stand on for whatever you're trying to argue.
I think you're an idiot for liking it. So here we are... |
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| wotyzoid |
Excuse me I was referring to this barbarity.
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Theo Parrish, making ... ty producing "cool" since 1998.
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| srussell0018 |
| Well I'd be interested in knowing what redeeming qualities you think his mixes have, and if relevant, any specific ones that help illustrate your opinion. |
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| wotyzoid |
| I was never defending Theo as a DJ in this thread, I was defending his music. |
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| chode_breath |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
I think your opinion is the popular opinion as far as this forum and most of the 'electronic dance music' umbrella scene would be concerned.
Theo's production is quirky and artistic. In some cases its supposed to be sloppy. He as a whole series of quick re-edits called 'Ugly Edits' and an experimental release called 'Sketches'. That is exactly his deal - he exposes his process where others would only be interested in exploit their product.
And I think the majority of people aren't looking for that. Most people are looking for something to be handed to them as a polished ready-made that they can easily digest.
I'm going to go ahead and guess that you don't listen to noise music, power electronics, industrial, krautrock, or musique concrete either. Theo's music (and techno in its origin) has a more in common with these kinds of art musics than anything else. |
Youre a ing wanker mate. No other word for it. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Guest
Yea his productions just sound sloppy in some cases. I think people graviate towards him in an era where everything is very tight. He's loosey goosey with the controls. |
People have this ing stupid idea that deliberately including minor imperfections in electronic music somehow gives it more "soul". It's the same idiot logic that declares using DAWs makes production too easy or that laptop DJing sucks because there's no performance in someone staring at a screen. Get some perspective, you twats. |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Think of it this way, what would happen if an up and comer put out the same kind of stuff that TP does, and what if they mixed like he did? Nobody would pay any attention to them at all, other than possibly saying that they possess poor mixing skills. |
No one would pay attention because Theo Parrish did it in 1995, and it would be obviously derivative.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
People have this ing stupid idea that deliberately including minor imperfections in electronic music somehow gives it more "soul". It's the same idiot logic that declares using DAWs makes production too easy or that laptop DJing sucks because there's no performance in someone staring at a screen. Get some perspective, you twats. |
Why don't you explain how your comment somehow offers 'perspective'. And explain how declaring that DAWs make production easier is idiot logic?
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| SYSTEM-J |
I didn't say "easier", I said "too easy".
Electronic music began with a disregard of ideas of technical virtuosity, performance or fetishism of humanity. It began with a DIY approach, a de-emphasis on live performance and an entire philosophy that rigid machine music could be just as beautiful and affecting as anything played by human hand. That is the entire ideal of electronic music. Hearing people echo the trad-musician arguments against electronic music but retuned with absurdist relativism makes me cringe.
The worst thing that ever happened to this music was that it gained its own history. |
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| Guest |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
People have this ing stupid idea that deliberately including minor imperfections in electronic music somehow gives it more "soul". It's the same idiot logic that declares using DAWs makes production too easy or that laptop DJing sucks because there's no performance in someone staring at a screen. Get some perspective, you twats. |
Thank you. |
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| Chimney |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The worst thing that ever happened to this music was that it gained its own history. |
Why is this part bad? |
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