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Review: Avicii at Beta in Waterloo (pg. 3)
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
Where's my Bible Study Group going to meet now? |
comfort zone. isnt that where it meets every sunday morning? |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
comfort zone. isnt that where it meets every sunday morning? |
No, church is held at comfort zone....Bible Study is an extracurricular activity. |
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| Beta |
We sold out of our WATER ONE NIGHT! and due to the fact that WE FAILED! LOL... My favourite people in the world are people like you that throw stats and numbers out of there ASS.
Also we have a lot of trouble selling out non massive events unless without booze and BETA has a massive marketing network.
In respect to not going out of business, MAYBE just MAYBE the people that built the nightclub and spent $1,000,000+ have a little more behind them then the investment and JUST MAYBE they were prepared for the AGCO's games and put that into the budget.
We do not make money on Water and Redbull. We do about 4000$ in sales on a PACKED night vs the $25,000+ we would do with booze.
| quote: | Originally posted by MeSoSmooth
Sorry to bring back such an old thread, but I almost feel like at the time you wrote this post, you were either purposely overlooking or completely oblivious and unaware to the fact that AT LEAST 75% of the BETA crowd is rolling on MDMA. That's the reason they sell out on their water, it's why people show up on the crappier nights even though there's no alcohol, and it's why they haven't gone out of business. Stimulants are causing the dehydration, not the high energy dancing, lol.
I just found it funny how you said the crowd is more alert without alcohol and you couldn't think of the most logical reason why this actually happens lol |
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| Zerstiren |
| Rofl @ The "Hired" drug dealers. I highly doubt a club that is desperately fighting for a liquor license has a team of drug dealers under their wing. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by love_child
He has gone downhill :( He plays way too much vocal trancy stuff now. |
I think it depends on what night (and what type of crowd) you catch him at. I wouldn't get your hopes up for Beta, because the only time I was there it seemed to have an average age of about 20, most of whom eat that vocal trance up.
I saw him in May of last year on his Dusk til Doorn tour at the Guv and he played a ~5-6 hour set that was nothing like the one I heard at Beta recently.
He's been one of my favorite DJs ever since I started listening to Trance, and "Love is Darkness" has been the only vocal track he's ever put out, so I don't necessarily think he is headed down that path...at least I hope not. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zerstiren
Rofl @ The "Hired" drug dealers. I highly doubt a club that is desperately fighting for a liquor license has a team of drug dealers under their wing. |
You clearly don't know how clubs work. Even clubs that have liquor licenses have people selling drugs there. They're not necessarily "hired" but the club owners know they're there, and you can bet they're getting a cut of the profit in return for turning a blind eye to it. They have booze for the people who go there to drink, but not everybody goes there to drink. |
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| Beta |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
You clearly don't know how clubs work. Even clubs that have liquor licenses have people selling drugs there. They're not necessarily "hired" but the club owners know they're there, and you can bet they're getting a cut of the profit in return for turning a blind eye to it. They have booze for the people who go there to drink, but not everybody goes there to drink. |
WOW, you honestly know nothing about this business. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beta
WOW, you honestly know nothing about this business. I wish I could run the #s to you, BUT LETS PRETEND you were correct, and you were my Mr. Drug dealer and you sold little candies for 10$ while I turned a blind eye for your envelope, and lets pretend cost of goods was 10% and lets pretend we spilt profit 50.50 and lets pretend in my little club of 700-1200 people through you sold a redic amount of candies. Lets SAY 1000. and you came to me at the end of the night with 4500$. I would ask you to take that money and shove it .....
There is alot of money in this business and it does not come from dealing drugs. |
Did I say a single word about your club? Did I say a majority, or even a lot of money comes from dealing drugs? *Hint* the answer to those questions is the same.
Club owners are idiots if they think drug dealing isn't going down in their clubs, and they'd be a fool to not get a cut out of it.
That being said, again I said nothing about your club in particular, so why don't you just take it easy there slick. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Did I say a single word about your club? Did I say a majority, or even a lot of money comes from dealing drugs? *Hint* the answer to those questions is the same.
Club owners are idiots if they think drug dealing isn't going down in their clubs, and they'd be a fool to not get a cut out of it.
That being said, again I said nothing about your club in particular, so why don't you just take it easy there slick. |
Dude, there is much risk involved in this type of business model. Do club owners know people are dealing drugs in their establishments... of course. Do they tolerate it; yeah, provided that it doesn't bring undue hassless from authorities. Do they profit from it... not many. Maybe -hole little places that have no viable business model otherwise but not many. In most cases if the dealer is paying anyone vig in order to operate without being tossed on their ass it is the security staff that's getting paid or otherwise compensated. Most club owners are legitimate business owners that have other legitimate business ventures; risking their legitimate ventures for a couple of grand a week isn't good business.
And don't give us this backpeddling about "did I say your club" or "did I say a majority"... you said "you clearly don't know how clubs work"... no qualifiers, which is to imply you intended to generalize to all clubs. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
And don't give us this backpeddling about "did I say your club" or "did I say a majority"... you said "you clearly don't know how clubs work"... no qualifiers, which is to imply you intended to generalize to all clubs. |
Do you know any club owners? Do you know anybody who sells in the same place in the same club every weekend for years? Have you talked to that person about why they're never harassed by security?
Who employs the security? They work for the club. With the amount of money being made at large clubs off of drug dealing, club owners would be retarded not to get a cut of it.
And thank you very much captain logic. Why don't you dissect the semantics of what I said some more. I never said all clubs, so you're inferring that that's what I meant, I didn't imply it.
Don't talk like you're some expert, when you're clearly just talking out of your ass. Why don't you say "business model" some more, maybe that'll make you sound more credible. They're in it to make as much money as possible, and club owners aren't always the legitimate type that you claim. Do you have any idea how many clubs are owned by leaders of organized crime? And you don't think that their organization has drug dealers? And you don't think that they sell drugs in those clubs? And you also don't think that their "bosses" are getting a cut of it?
You're just naive then. |
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| MeSoSmooth |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zerstiren
Rofl @ The "Hired" drug dealers. I highly doubt a club that is desperately fighting for a liquor license has a team of drug dealers under their wing. |
Lol at you for thinking the world is peace signs and rainbows.
I'm getting a great first impression from these boards... My first post gets edited because it had some truth to it that a club owner would prefer no one knew.
Let's just put it like this then, so that my crap isn't being edited or deleted for slander: I know of certain clubs within the KW/GTA area that have pre-approved dealers. No, this does not necessarily mean that they're providing the drugs, or that the drug dealers were hired on record. Why would the club not get a cut from a business that is run within their business?
Don't come at us with the whole "this is a petty amount of money" bull arguement. If a club could sell an additional X amount of shots a night by taking a specific action, they would... This is no different. Money is money.
This cash comes at no risk to a business owner, because when the dealer gets busted, no one else goes down with him. |
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| srussell0018 |
| I found it interesting that Beta has since retracted their little "hypothetical" about allowing drugs to be sold on the premises :tongue2 |
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