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Movies that you didn't quite understand... explained here! (well, attempted) (pg. 4)
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| chojin |
| quote: | Originally posted by Acton
I remember Akira being particularly confusing. Maybe that was due not reading any Manga when I was younger, though. |
The manga makes a lot more sense...i've read through it about four times. The movie is only such a mess because they tried to cram 6 volumes of manga into one movie, and each volume is sometimes two times the size of a normal volume. 12 volumes in one two hour movie just isn't going to work. |
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| Desiderata |
| quote: | Originally posted by aNYthing
so, all the movie talk got me turned on to an idea to "dot the I's, cross the T's" on some of the flix that didn't exactly make a clean cut ending...
[WARNING: SPOILER ALERTS MAY BE WITHIN]
Let's start...
Can someone explain Vanilla Sky? It was a bit of a mind to follow, even after watching it 2x...
What did it mean at the end... who said "Open your eyes"? |
Cameron Diaz originally said "open your eyes" on his alarm before his face ever got jacked, later in the movie as he went into the dream and it turned into a nightmare, the girls became mixed up and that is why sometimes it sounded like Sofia.
At the end, before he went into the dream, he signed a paper that if anything was to ever go wrong and he needed to wake up from his dream, he would face his deepest fear and that was heights, so after he said goodbye to everyone from his real life/dream he jumped off the building but not to die but to wake up in the future whatever date it was, I forget how long he was in that dream but it is in the movie.
After his face got jacked from the car accident, he fought the 7 dwarfs as they were going to have him claimed mentally incapable of doing his job but he fought for his 51% of the company and won. Then he saw a commercial about Benny the Dog who was frozen for a length of time and got the idea to kill himself. See, he was a rich spoiled brat but quickly fell in love with the poor girl (typical story line there). She was no longer attracted to him so he found that place that would freeze people but not just preserve them for he future, they would allow them to continue their life as they wished. He was so fixated on Sofia (the poor girl). Opposites attract you know. Anyway, when we went under to be froze his brain still worked as planned and in his dream his face was fixed by a radical experimental preceder. Sofia came back in his life and as far as he knew he was really alive. The Iconography was interesting because as he kept living in the dream word his mind would take things from his real life past and turn them into reality. But what happened was kind of like what happened on Total Recall, he had a nightmare with in the dream. I think the memory of the car crash was deep rooted in his mind and that is what caused his to mistake Sofia for Cameron Diaz. The whole movie was about the choices you make in life and sometimes the littlest of choices can have the most dramatic affect on a persons life, for example he should have never got in the car with Cameron Diaz, especially after spending such a rad night with Sofia. They had love at first sight (it does exist). But being the player he was trying to sway away from his life after meeting Sofia, he still got into that car and suffered dearly.
So I think the deep mental drama he felt from the car accident caused his dreams to switch around where the girls in his mind would change back and forth. It was also about friendship, the old man that knew his Dad helped him regain his 51% percent of the company. But it was also about betrayal as his best friend told Cameron Diaz that he (Tom Cruz)said they wee just buddies which led to the car accident if you really look at it but Tom Cruz betrayed his friend at the party by taking away Sofia with his charm and lure of money (I saw that play a part in why she liked him in the movie) but anyway his friend has just met her and was a hopeless romantic and if Tom Cruz never interfered who know what could have happened with Sofia and his friend, but he stole her away anyhow. A little bit of Karma in there.
Well, the dream turned to and that is when Technical support came in because things were to out of control. And in Tom Cruz's contract with that company he signed a paper that if the dream went crazy that he would face his biggest fear and that was heights. That is why they went up to the top floor and he said goodbye to everyone then jumped off the building in order to wake up. There was also that little thing about in the future his money running out, it almost made me thing that they ed his dream in order to get him back into the real world cause his cash was finally running out but that idea doesn't fit with the movie well.
I know I ramble when I write but if there is anything you don't understand about the movie just respond, I know that movie very well.
What is happiness to you David? |
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| srussell0018 |
Does anybody know what was in the box in Se7en?
WHAT'S IN THE BOX?!?!? |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Does anybody know what was in the box in 12 Monkeys?
WHAT'S IN THE BOX?!?!? |
you mean Se7en, no? |
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| srussell0018 |
| Fixed. Oh that Bradley has got me all a-flustered :p |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Does anybody know what was in the box in Se7en?
WHAT'S IN THE BOX?!?!? |
Gwyneth Paltrow's head. Obviously. |
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| Summerlover |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Gwyneth Paltrow's head. Obviously. |
DUH! Kevin Spacey even says, so I took her pretty little head. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Obviously. |
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| srussell0018 |
| I dare someone to prove what was in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction. |
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| chojin |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
I dare someone to prove what was in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction. |
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The combination of the mysterious suitcase is 666, the "number of the beast". Tarantino has said that there is no explanation for its contents—it is simply a MacGuffin, a pure plot device. Originally, the case was to contain diamonds, but this was seen as too mundane. For filming purposes, it contained a hidden orange light bulb that produced an otherworldly glow.[176] In a 2007 video interview with fellow director and friend Robert Rodriguez, Tarantino purportedly "reveals" the secret contents of the briefcase, but the film cuts out and skips the scene in the style employed in Tarantino and Rodriguez's Grindhouse (2007), with an intertitle that reads "Missing Reel". The interview resumes with Rodriguez discussing how radically the "knowledge" of the briefcase's contents alters one's understanding of the movie.[177]
Despite Tarantino's statements, many solutions to what one scholar calls this "unexplained postmodern puzzle" have been proposed.[80] A strong similarity has often been observed with the 1955 film noir Kiss Me Deadly. That movie, whose protagonist Tarantino has cited as a source for Butch, features a glowing briefcase housing an atomic explosive.[178] In scholar Paul Gormley's view, this connection with Kiss Me Deadly, and a similar one with Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981), makes it possible to read the eerie glow as symbolic of violence itself.[179] To Susan Fraiman, the unseen contents represent "defended, mystified, male interiority. Much valued, much vaunted, and never finally shown, this radiant, indefinable softness is locked within a hard, exterior shell. Even Jules, who wants to lose the baggage of a barricaded self, walks out of the movie clutching it still."[180] The idea that the briefcase contains Marsellus's soul gained popular currency in the mid-1990s. Analyzing the notion, Roger Ebert dismissed it as "nothing more than a widely distributed urban legend given false credibility by the mystique of the Net".
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
I dare someone to prove what was in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction. |
Tarantino claims it was never meant to be anything; a "MacGuffin" as the post above me explains. Roger Avery (the other writer) said that initially it was supposed to be diamonds but then they decided that was too boring so they decided not to identify it and let the viewer make up their own mind. Avery also states that it was "some prop guy" who put the orange light in the briefcase to make it glow; something Avery later decided was a bad idea to let go forward as it made the briefcase seem supernatural, which was not intended. |
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| srussell0018 |
| I've heard theories that it contained Ving Rhames' soul, which was taken out of the back of his neck, hence the band-aid :p |
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