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| ucforange |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
because it's good music?
and also, kraftwerk was arguably the original techno producer, and krautrock was certainly the basis of the form of techno and lots of the production techiques.
hipsters like these things ironically in that they put a premium on musicianship. the synth is seen as a cultural relic like a particular pair of sunglasses or an old fashioned camera. it is often used by hipsters as symbol of retrospection within the music rather than a machine for producing novel sound, like the original manipulators of the synths used them for. it's also important to realize that certain synths were never meant to be used for the types of sounds for which they came to be famous.
to me it sounds overproduced, predictable, limp-wristed. i hear a ho-hum, played-out sequence of predictable maneuvers and sounds, which ultimately become reduced to an infantile language of 'fist pump', 'weird, obscure, desperately soulful, or ironic sample', 'breakdown', 'bass drop'. and the language of the djs is equally simplistic, the same manuevers being used over and over again, to change the track in the most innoffensive and slick manner, with a smooth fade, harmonic mix, and a bass swap, often accompanied by a bass kill for an impromptu hands in the air rubato. it's deejaying and music which has been reduced to a minimum viable product, a branded muzak experience, rather than musical vision, real emotional drama, or virtuoso. everyone is afraid to step outside of the mold, but it's ok to colonize other things and bring them into it.
in a way this german group draws extreme attention to that fact. but guess what, kraftwerk did this 40 years ago. we get it, electronic music makes people act like machines and can possibly be used to make an artistic statement on modern industrial society. except that made sense in the 70s and 80s when the technology was just coming out.
now i would argue that people making music in ways that engage contemporary technology like karaoke on chatroulette are the innovators. but the problem is everyone is so obsessed with humor now that there is very little sincerity or earnestness in music. people get their news from jon stewart and conan obrien. everything is a satire, a parody, an autotune this or a meme that.
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Ok. I still like tech-house. |
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| apaper |
Their music does seem pretty boring. The repetitiveness doesn't do it for me.
What does interest me is how pointlessly angry the OP is over this. Anyone who rants this much about music must be a pretty huge hipster. The whine and defensiveness throughout this thread was pretty funny though. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by apaper
Their music does seem pretty boring. The repetitiveness doesn't do it for me.
What does interest me is how pointlessly angry the OP is over this. Anyone who rants this much about music must be a pretty huge hipster. The whine and defensiveness throughout this thread was pretty funny though. |
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So, whose alt are you, turd? |
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| apaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
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So, whose alt are you, turd? |
Here comes the "veteran poster" defense force. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
Got that right.
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| apaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Got that right.
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Must feel good relying on other people to make your opinions. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by apaper
Must feel good relying on other people to make your opinions. |
It does, oh yes it does.
Actually I have no idea what you're talking about. But whatever. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
but the problem is everyone is so obsessed with humor now that there is very little sincerity or earnestness in music. people get their news from jon stewart and conan obrien. everything is a satire, a parody, an autotune this or a meme that. |
What a ridiculous statement. You're a techno listener and you think there's no sincerity in today's music? The genre is probably the most serious and pretentious contemporary music there is. Now I'm totally convinced that you're not a person with a genuine problem, but rather someone who just likes to whinge.
As for all techno musicians liking Kraftwerk, krautrock etc - I'm sure there are plenty of people for whom that's the truth. However, for many I think they're either outright lying, or they got into that music because they felt it was the logical ancestor of what they're into now, rather than doing it the other way around.
That review on RA is absolutely hilarious.
Oh, and the alt is clearly osterzone, or that other tool who's always ranting about the TA clique and how crap techno is. |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
What a ridiculous statement. You're a techno listener and you think there's no sincerity in today's music? The genre is probably the most serious and pretentious contemporary music there is. Now I'm totally convinced that you're not a person with a genuine problem, but rather someone who just likes to whinge. |
some of it is, the majority is just party soundtraack. but i'm not talking about all of 'techno', just this brandt brauer frick ensemble.
do you honestly care about what kind of person i am? let's just talk music. get a life.
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
As for all techno musicians liking Kraftwerk, krautrock etc - I'm sure there are plenty of people for whom that's the truth. However, for many I think they're either outright lying, or they got into that music because they felt it was the logical ancestor of what they're into now, rather than doing it the other way around. |
yes, i agree, hence my rant about lack of earnestness. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
It does, oh yes it does.
Actually I have no idea what you're talking about. But whatever. |
Be careful. It looks like you're trying to form your own opinions and the masters don't like that. |
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| gmilf |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Got that right.
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:haha: :haha: I need to start saving funny images like this. Have any more? |
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| gmilf |
| , I just posted out of the c0r. The water feels murky and unfamiliar out here. |
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