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Senator Clay Davis
i dont think apogge duet is balanced btw. i dont really agree to alot of what you are saying. pro gear should be balanced, period. cdj1000 and up, djm800 and up, all A&H gear etc are considered pro and should use the same standards as the rest of PA/Pro-business iregardless of how long cables you are planning on using. Its a better standard and its really not that much more circuitry, most of the DACs used is prepared for this.
OMNIFEX
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Originally posted by Senator Clay Davis
put lets say you are djeing inside the computer without a external mixer (this is possible i guess???), and you just want to smash the soundcard directly into the monitors like 20m away. you would need balanced XLR. its weird imo. i find it weird that CDJ and standard mixer doesnt use XLR. All good HIFI does. and all other Pro PA too. weird. something wrong with the standards of djeing. its like they insists its toys.


There have been XLR to 1/4 inch cables for decades. There is even XLR to RCA cables so there is no reason you cannot use powered speakers if that is your means to listening to music.

Just because a component offers an XLR input, does not mean it
is using all three pins on the XLR.
A.B
I've asked it before and I'll ask it again......how is Traktor better than using CDJ's??
orTofønChiLd
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Originally posted by A.B
I've asked it before and I'll ask it again......how is Traktor better than using CDJ's??


kinda stupid question is that?
A.B
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Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
kinda stupid question is that?


Clearly one you don't have a feasible answer for.
orTofønChiLd
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Originally posted by A.B
Clearly one you don't have a feasible answer for.


just shut ur mouth if you know whats good for u

only a troll asks those kind of questions, newb like
skip
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Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
just shut ur mouth if you know whats good for u

only a troll asks those kind of questions, newb like



You have a terrible attitude, mate.


for A.B: For me the main reason is easy organization. Finding my music with Traktor is a thousand times easier and faster than with CDs. Also I don't have to burn CDs anymore and label them with a marker and make covers with track lists etc. Also with Traktor you could carry a lot more music with you much more easily than with CDs or vinyl. Traktor also offers multiple other things, like effects, looping, automatic beatmatching (some people see it as useful, I'd maybe only use it if making some live re-edits myself), better visualisation of the track (proper waveform)…
orTofønChiLd
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Originally posted by skip
You have a terrible attitude, mate.


for A.B: For me the main reason is easy organization. Finding my music with Traktor is a thousand times easier and faster than with CDs. Also I don't have to burn CDs anymore and label them with a marker and make covers with track lists etc. Also with Traktor you could carry a lot more music with you much more easily than with CDs or vinyl. Traktor also offers multiple other things, like effects, looping, automatic beatmatching (some people see it as useful, I'd maybe only use it if making some live re-edits myself), better visualisation of the track (proper waveform)…


wow everything you mentioned has been said atousands times before
skip
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Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
wow everything you mentioned has been said atousands times before



No ? What's your point?
orTofønChiLd
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Originally posted by skip
No ? What's your point?


im done with you

A.B next time use the search and stop cluttering this thread with stupid questions

Senator Clay Davis
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Originally posted by OMNIFEX
There have been XLR to 1/4 inch cables for decades. There is even XLR to RCA cables so there is no reason you cannot use powered speakers if that is your means to listening to music.

Just because a component offers an XLR input, does not mean it
is using all three pins on the XLR.


the whole point is balanced though, so if its not using all three pins then its pointless. i dont care though but i find it weird that something thats meant to be used in da club doesnt follow the same standard as rest of the pro-gear equipment. 1/4 can be balanced too you know. RCA cannot. If you care about audio, especially in a live setup, you make balanced ins and outs. period. if not you are part of the problem with music today, like mp3, loudness, compression etc etc. all these things ruin the art of music. give it another decade and the dj mixer will only have stereo minijacks for ipad. hopefully by then im through with edm and clubs and only listen to live piano lol.
A.B
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Originally posted by orTof?nChiLd
just shut ur mouth if you know whats good for u

only a troll asks those kind of questions, newb like


Lol!
Only an angst ridden adolescent teenager with roid rage would come up with a reply like that. Maybe you ain't been laid in a while either.
Which one of the above applies to you?? all of them perhaps??

Thought so.

Now jog on Juan-ker and keep looking for tunes. Nobody gives a either way. I'll come back to you later.

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Originally posted by skip
You have a terrible attitude, mate.


for A.B: For me the main reason is easy organization. Finding my music with Traktor is a thousand times easier and faster than with CDs. Also I don't have to burn CDs anymore and label them with a marker and make covers with track lists etc. Also with Traktor you could carry a lot more music with you much more easily than with CDs or vinyl. Traktor also offers multiple other things, like effects, looping, automatic beatmatching (some people see it as useful, I'd maybe only use it if making some live re-edits myself), better visualisation of the track (proper waveform)?


Skip - thanks for the reply.

The reason I asked initially was because all I hear about is how people are switching to Traktor and it's the "way forward" etc

With the exception of a few high profile individuals who have endorsed products, I haven't heard anything ground breaking from your average club or bedroom DJ that would make me think WOW!

The fact that organisation of the music seems easier is definitely a selling point but I personally have no issue carrying a cd wallet or two. I would imagine carrying a laptop, controller and any other add-on required would also be similar to carrying cd's.

My other point is that I could simply carry a couple of flash drives in my pocket with plenty of tracks. No extra baggage whatsoever (with the exception of headphones)

DJ's used to turn up to gigs with a box of records. These DJ's would deliver time after time to whoever their audience was. Doesn't matter if it was a bar, a pub, a club an arena or a warehouse in the middle of nowhere.....people still danced, people still had a good night. The entire scene got bigger and bigger. It got more popular as the years went on......from DJ's spinning records only.

Now fast forward to today. Everyone is a DJ, producer or what not. People are singing about how all this new software can do this and do that........I think it's a load of bull to be honest.

Punters and clubbers don't really give a about what the happens with the music. There will always be a few trainspotters and fanboys who wank off in euphoric delight because DJ (insert name) filtered a loop and applied a delayed echo reverb whilst doing some irritating looping with another track with 3 effects thrown in for good measure.
If the music is good and fits the environment, people will dance.
If the DJ is astute enough to read the crowd and can deliver competent transitions and mixing....guess what people will still dance.
If a DJ starts ing about with the music too much, it gets tiresome and hurts your ing ears......people go home.

DJ P sums it up nicely:



The scene worldwide is dying on it's arse.
Yes there may still be some successful nights happening near you but the reality is, everything has peaked and is now in a downward spiral towards oblivion.

No hardware or software is going to turn that around ever.
Some level headed approach to DJ'ing just might.


At the end of the day, after a considerable rant, my point was this:

People say that they are gonna do this or that with Traktor or they have the potential to do this or that with Traktor.

If Traktor is how people want to roll then that's fine. It is all about the medium at the end of the day and I am not for one minute insinuating that anyone how knows it benefits and features will not deliver a great set at anytime.
I just asked the question on how it was "better" from a purely objective point in how it's actually benefitting anyone other than the individual using it (or the aforementioned trainspotters or DJ fanboys)


One more thing....orTof?nChiLd (Juan-kerr)

I actually listened to your January promo mix to get a flavour of where you were poorly attempting to coming from and the irony of your previous derogatory posts appeared in all its splendour!!!

@ 9 mins and for the few minutes afterwards, there was some serious clipping......actually quite harsh on the ears. Traktor was it??.......Not gonna do you much good if you can't even get your levels right 9 minutes into a ing mix is it?

I skipped through the rest of your mixes looking for something (anything) that would constitute a justified verbal attack on me for simply asking how is Traktor better?

There was nothing............at all

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Originally posted by orTof?nChiLd
A.B next time use the search and stop cluttering this thread with stupid questions


Thank you. I'll bear that in mind the next time I seek a generic 10 a penny trance mix where the DJ has no regard for going into the red and causing damage to the listeners eardrum.
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