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f*cking a prostitute for the first time (pg. 7)
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| AnotherWay83 |
| quote: | Originally posted by gmilf
I'm really confused by this. At first I thought that people paid for sex if they couldn't get it themselves. But after spending sometime in the Midwest I've realized that looks have nothing to do with it, there are a lot of uglies that would be willing to bang anyone. Then after seeing ugly ass old guys driving nice cars and the way women still go ape over them I realized there are enough shallow gorgeous women that would bang anyone that just has the facade of a higher than average income. So, is it just a dominance issue? Or perhaps, the idea of paying for a service and having absolutely no pretenses of anything else? And aren't you afraid of breaking a condom and catching the HIV? Those things break all the time on me, and I think I would freak out if it broke while having sex with a girl who was likely dirty. |
its just the money, thats all. nothing more to it! people pay for sex for all kinds of reasons. did you know that most clients are in fact married men, and not single guys that can't get laid? alot of guys just get sick and tired of banging the same girl over and over...
alot of ppl here seem to be deriving all of their notions of prostitutes from whats depicted of them on shows like 'Cops' or something - the homeless, drug addicted, pimp abused, beaten and battered underage child/woman.
while certainly these can be found in abundance, what i've pointed out before in this thread is that one can just as easily find (at least here in the US and in most of the developed countries of the world) high end escorts that do this sort of thing simply because its easy money. they are not drug addicted, often work independently and do not necessarily hail from broken homes with a traumatic childhood in tow.
that said, most STDs are in fact not spread through such prostitutes; someone frequenting high end escorts (and yes, even porn stars - in LA you can bang one for about 250+/hr) likely has a *lower* chance of contracting an STD than a guy who regularly hooks up with girls at bars.
i can tell you from experience with such women that they are far more paranoid about safety+hygiene than most non-pros i've met, it is after all their principal means of earning an income and the last thing they'd want is for their bodies, and therefore, their primary means of earning, to become damaged.
i'm afraid that folks like eddiezilker and wittyhandle might misinterpret my stance as one of actually advocating sex-slavery. however, i'm just trying to shed some light on aspects of this trade that alot of ppl seem to have some difficulty coming to terms with. |
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| gmilf |
| I think that my mind automatically goes towards the sex trafficking as well due to some volunteer work I've done abroad. So, when I think about the average whore who isn't forced into the lifestyle I judge them pretty harshly, and anyone who would buy someone as equally sick. Having said that I've definitely walked into the wrong type of spa before due to language barriers and had to leave awkwardly quick :) |
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| igottaknow |
| I'm not an expert on paid for sex but dick goes in, dick goes out, never a miscommunication. |
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| bas |
| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
I'm not an expert on paid for sex but dick goes in, dick goes out, never a miscommunication. |
Kids these days have no concept of a dollar, eh IGK? |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by AnotherWay83
its just the money, thats all. nothing more to it! people pay for sex for all kinds of reasons. did you know that most clients are in fact married men, and not single guys that can't get laid? alot of guys just get sick and tired of banging the same girl over and over...
alot of ppl here seem to be deriving all of their notions of prostitutes from whats depicted of them on shows like 'Cops' or something - the homeless, drug addicted, pimp abused, beaten and battered underage child/woman.
while certainly these can be found in abundance, what i've pointed out before in this thread is that one can just as easily find (at least here in the US and in most of the developed countries of the world) high end escorts that do this sort of thing simply because its easy money. they are not drug addicted, often work independently and do not necessarily hail from broken homes with a traumatic childhood in tow.
that said, most STDs are in fact not spread through such prostitutes; someone frequenting high end escorts (and yes, even porn stars - in LA you can bang one for about 250+/hr) likely has a *lower* chance of contracting an STD than a guy who regularly hooks up with girls at bars.
i can tell you from experience with such women that they are far more paranoid about safety+hygiene than most non-pros i've met, it is after all their principal means of earning an income and the last thing they'd want is for their bodies, and therefore, their primary means of earning, to become damaged.
i'm afraid that folks like eddiezilker and wittyhandle might misinterpret my stance as one of actually advocating sex-slavery. however, i'm just trying to shed some light on aspects of this trade that alot of ppl seem to have some difficulty coming to terms with. |
I don't think you're advocating anything directly. I think you are applying a convenient "Pretty Woman" narrative to a social issue consisting of multiple layers far more nuanced than the small cross-section you've adopted to suit your purposes. To be clear, I don't even think that most prostitution laws are as efficacious as their proponents would like to believe they are and that they probably do more to keep women in prostitution than actually helping them to emerge from it. |
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| jester |
| quote: | Originally posted by WittyHandle
Call me a buzzkill prude, but I think anyone who pays for sex is sick in the head and I instantly lose all respect for them. |
True he could have just picked some random chick and raped her. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
Of all the "social issues", consensual sex should be at the very bottom of the list. So there's money involved sometimes - big deal. There's always money involved, whether the girl does it for a profession or not.
I've actually been clued in to a vice operation at a hotel I worked at once - 5 Feds just to take down one girl from California whom they had baited via Facebook. It's a social issue that it takes 5 ing officers on a Friday night who could be doing something more useful, like issuing parking tickets or not using tax dollars to arrest people for harmless hospitality.
The factors you suppose might 'keep women in prostitution' are faulty, as you presuppose their wanting to do something else. If your concern is for "slavery" or some other form of in/direct abuse because of their managers or something - sure. That's legitimate, so far as domestic abuse is an actual issue. But I really think you undermine the girls' sovereignty when you say that their life's choices are not their fault at all, it's that horrible institution of sex-trading that's keeping them down! Nobody 'emerges' through the veracity of disapproval, people have to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
The food industry is to blame because it forces people to wait tables and live primarily on tips. They are enslaved because if they do not render this service, they cannot make the money to afford rent, they lose their home and all of their belongings, their cats have to live on the street, and they are probably forced into far inferior positions like that of prostitution!
Down with food! |
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| srussell0018 |
I don't understand how sex-slavery got into all of this. Granted that does exist, but it sounds like Boris visited a regular prostitute who chose that profession. In that way it's just a client paying for a service. They don't own that prostitute for that time, and I'm sure there have to be some ground rules laid down before hand (NO EYE CONTACT!). I've never visited a hooker, and I've only known one person who has, and his was for the same reason. He hadn't gotten laid in years and just either didn't have the ability to pick up a girl for free, or got sick of waiting. I don't think it's fair to lose all respect for someone just for visiting a paid professional. I mean what about massage parlors that offer happy endings, or fully nude strip clubs. Where is the line drawn for when selling ones body becomes immoral or shameful.
I don't even really enjoy going to strip clubs, but I don't think people who do are scum. Those girls make a lot of money, and it's pretty easy work, and I'm sure some probably enjoy it too. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by boris_the_bear
predatory pricing put you out of business |
Awwww, you hear that? That's the sound of someone being butthurt.
Remember Boris, the difference between you and I is that I've never had to pay for sex. Also I'm not ugly, stupid, and a loser. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Of all the "social issues", consensual sex should be at the very bottom of the list. So there's money involved sometimes - big deal. There's always money involved, whether the girl does it for a profession or not.
I've actually been clued in to a vice operation at a hotel I worked at once - 5 Feds just to take down one girl from California whom they had baited via Facebook. It's a social issue that it takes 5 ing officers on a Friday night who could be doing something more useful, like issuing parking tickets or not using tax dollars to arrest people for harmless hospitality.
The factors you suppose might 'keep women in prostitution' are faulty, as you presuppose their wanting to do something else. If your concern is for "slavery" or some other form of in/direct abuse because of their managers or something - sure. That's legitimate, so far as domestic abuse is an actual issue. But I really think you undermine the girls' sovereignty when you say that their life's choices are not their fault at all, it's that horrible institution of sex-trading that's keeping them down! Nobody 'emerges' through the veracity of disapproval, people have to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
To be clear, I don't even think that most prostitution laws are as efficacious as their proponents would like to believe they are and that they probably do more to keep women in prostitution than actually helping them to emerge from it. |
I'm not seeing what you're getting at because, as much as you seem to be in agreement, your posture is notably disagreeable. It's not that I'm even disagreeing with AnotherWay's portrayal of prostitution. I'm only maintaining that it's far from describing the totality of it going onto a point in which he and I may actually find some agreement, that being ineffectual, on the order of feckless, prostitution laws. |
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| srussell0018 |
| Can someone give me a brief history on Boris? Why so much hate? I think this is the first time I've ever really noticed him post. |
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