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EMINEM: your thoughts (pg. 13)
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| biznology |
| quote: | Originally posted by musicaddict
uhhhh man, that was a damn joke. geeze. |
maybe for you, but many people dont agree or take this literally. im amazed by the regularity| |
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| musicaddict |
| quote: | Originally posted by biznology
maybe for you, but many people dont agree or take this literally. im amazed by the regularity| |
i dont think you know what you're talking about. |
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| extulas |
| I'm a dumbass? Excuse me for being raised with morals and not listening to music that degrades women and such, And biznology how do I generally not have no idea what I am talking about? Just cause I dont agree with you I automatically have no idea of what I am talking about? Nice to know you pull stuff out of your ass randomly! |
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| biznology |
wow.
alright my opinion doesnt matter...
you think that *music* is reality?
degrading women in rhyme is the same as reality? i have morals, but im not ting myself over what some random guy says.
as for your 'dumbass' claim, i never said that word...
i LOVE how people make up on this board. just cause you think that eminem is a ing doesnt mean that his music is bad, or even that he is bad as a person.
just cause you made a random, sweeping generalization about an artist and i called you on it, doesnt mean that i think you are stupid in some academic sense...
frankly i just see a bunch of people that think trance is some 'better' form of music freaking out about another genre. music is music, and your unwillingness to enjoy various forms doesnt mean that genre is bad...
when you have concrete complaints, reply| |
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| Verona^My |
| quote: | Originally posted by musicaddict
yeah man...geeeze...hip hop in a trance forum? get outta here! hehehe. |
I like DJ Bobo/2 Unlimited eurodance rap, it preaches love & happiness for all, instead of that angry crap Eminem releases. I can agree with DJ Bobos lyrics about love & freedom, but Eminems stuff about hating fags I disagree with...
But this is what pisses me off the most, people who would not tolerate homophobia in any other instance, exempt Eminem because he is an artist... And nothing pisses me off faster than hypocrazy... and the same people will piss on DJ Bobo & other groups like them, but their message is right on.... Agg, the world just phuckin pisses me off sometimes. :whip:
In the end, I agree, Eminem has talent, but his message is negative & hateful, like Hitlers. |
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| Verona^My |
| quote: | Originally posted by biznology
you think that *music* is reality?
degrading women in rhyme is the same as reality? i have morals, but im not ting myself over what some random guy says.
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Ok, so degrading women is acceptable as a musical art form, come on, this is stupid... If degrading women is bad, and it is, therefore people who do it on record are setting a bad example and just making a fool of themselves. Eminem is a hate monger, he has no class. If I write a song, I certainly wont degrade women, because it's against my principles.
I guess with this argument, homophobia is acceptable as a musical art form too... Me waits for the hardcore Christian rap song, with the slogan "god hates fags"... But Eminem is exempt from criticism because he is an "artist"... that is the double standard that pisses me off.
I hope someone assassinates Eminem so he can be rid of this hate monger once and for all... |
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| nrGeorge |
| EMINEM IS PURE CHEESE IMHO! |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | originally posted by ALF
Eminem has payed his dues. Going into a predominantly black music genre and being able to take down and earn respect from the best of them in the underground hip-hop scene is miraculous. To many avid listeners, making it big in the underground scene gets far greater respect than succeeding in the commercial arena. He's definitely not a "fixed package" by any means. He worked his way from the ground up into what he is now. Some people take his lyrics too personally. It's all entertainment. Music is to entertain.
As far as the commercial rap subject goes, all commercial rap sucks balls...anybody that knows hip-hop knows that these bling-bling commercial rappers of today are all in it for the money. That's not what true hip-hop is all about. Stop listening to the radio and turn off MTV. It all lies in the underground.
Now is Eminem considered commercial? Yes. But the flipside of it is that he holds his own in the lyrics department (not that he doesn't already, but he's been so much better in the past). You can look at his pre-commercial days and write that up as an integral part of his "resume." I can't think of any rapper alive that has worked their way up to the level of success the way Eminem has. The last good reputable rapper to hit the commercial scene close to Eminem's level was Notorious BIG. Anyone who says otherwise definitely does not know their hip-hop.
Much like trance, you can only listen to the best hip-hop if you look for it. Listen to the radio and you will get crap like Nelly and Cash Money Millionaires. That's bull if you ask me. Hip-hop gets the same rep that trance does...look at DJ Sammy. Is that what good trance really is? Cheese? It's not, but because of its exposure, that's what people perceive trance as; a cheesy catchy "techno" tune with female vocals. For some people, listening to lyrics, let alone learning to hear the genius of a good lyricist, is difficult, much like listening to a trance song with repetitive beats and no singing. With any type of music, you learn to like it.
-ALF - loves trance and hip-hop equally
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*gives ALF a standing ovation* |
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| Blik |
I don't dig his music but I listened to him live and he definately rulez when you see him live
ALF: great writing :) |
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| BenTech |
I'm not gonna read all this thread, I'll just add a quick note
if any of you have seen an interview with em you will know that all he is out to do is provoke you, and make you think and talk about him
so all of you wether you like him or not have been played by him, as you seem to feel passionatly enough about him to get a thread this size at a trance forum, he has suceeded at what he set out to do, prolly more so than he had ever planned |
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| MiB |
| he ha no doubt succeed to get an audience.. but his damn attitude.. could be happy for all those awards... |
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