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30 NATO troops die in Afghanistan (pg. 3)
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tasty Onions
I was saying that Vietnam is what lowered the tolerance. It was the breaking point, so to speak. If we get involved in some far away place with alien cultures and the conflict isn't wrapped up quickly, Americans don't want it. |
I think there are a number of factors which differentiate the current conflict, along with other conflicts, from Vietnam and that the social acceptance/tolerance/rejection for wars is more constant than this quote gives it credit for. Vietnam was far more televised with far less constriction about what was being reported and, while the Gulf of Tonkin incident was presented to the American public as an attack on our sovereignty, it did not support the clear-cut imperative propelled by more legitimized outrage of Pearl Harbor and 9/11.
Even in WWII, Americans had become tired and demoralized. The staged flag-raising on Iwo Jima was a response to that demoralization. Had WWII been more televised than Vietnam, I suspect we still may have persisted, but only because it was a necessary act of self-defense. I don't think it's a lowered tolerance for war as much as it is a naturally occurring moral compass for what should be tolerated. |
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| Tasty Onions |
WWII would have been supported even with recent media coverage because we were fighting for (and alongside) Europeans, not Asians.
Harsh truth. ;) |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
seriously. ungrateful bastards. |
Greatful for what? A 10 year war? off. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
Greatful for what? A 10 year war? off. |
I don't agree with the war but I'm still offended by your comment. |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
I don't agree with the war but I'm still offended by your comment. |
I am offended by your comment that i have to be grateful for something just because i became a citizen of this ty country. |
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| WittyHandle |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
Greatful for what? A 10 year war? off. |
No, not grateful for the war, but for the people willing to die to defend the country you live in
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
I am offended by your comment that i have to be grateful for something just because i became a citizen of this ty country. |
If it's a ty country, get the out and go somewhere else. |
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| Tasty Onions |
Why become a citizen at all if it's so ty?
Hey, I think there are some ty things about the U.S., too, but I didn't choose to grow up here. I don't understand deliberately moving to some place you despise.
:p |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by WittyHandle
No, not grateful for the war, but for the people willing to die to defend the country you live in
If it's a ty country, get the out and go somewhere else. |
+1 again
yourself nchs09. |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by WittyHandle
No, not grateful for the war, but for the people willing to die to defend the country you live in
If it's a ty country, get the out and go somewhere else. |
I did not realize they where defending the country from the millions of Afghans wanting to come and take over. My bad.
And dont worry, i will leave soon enough. Plenty of good places to go in the world. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
I am offended by your comment that i have to be grateful for something just because i became a citizen of this ty country. |
I never said you had to be grateful, but I have a distinct feeling you're about to learn a little respect. I'm not thrilled about the condition our country's in, either, but I don't take it out on the people who serve it, in the military. So, you go ahead and be offended about some bull cookie that's been fermenting in your mind and predicating your delusions. I suspect I know more about the focus of your outrage than you do and that your misplaced notions about who's to blame don't really amount to the weight they seem to be carrying with you. |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
I never said you had to be grateful, but I have a distinct feeling you're about to learn a little respect. I'm not thrilled about the condition our country's in, either, but I don't take it out on the people who serve it, in the military. So, you go ahead and be offended about some bull cookie that's been fermenting in your mind and predicating your delusions. I suspect I know more about the focus of your outrage than you do and that your misplaced notions about who's to blame don't really amount to the weight they seem to be carrying with you. |
Ah, thanks for letting me off the hook. The mercy you show shall not be forgotten. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
Ah, thanks for letting me off the hook. The mercy you show shall not be forgotten. |
I never put you on any hook and I'm definitely not showing you any mercy. |
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