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clockwork orange (pg. 4)
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| Lira |
Well, I guess I wasn't too far off :)
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
ITT: People with bad taste in movies. |
Quick reminder: You ARE in this thread :p |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| Star Wars certainly has that fairytale feel to it, which is possibly why it's so popular, and the science fiction elements are secondary in plot importance to the spiritual stuff. The space ships and alien races are just facilitators of the action, where as it's about Luke's discovery of the Force and the battle between good and evil that results. But at the same time, all the awesome ships and weapons and stuff is almost certainly what sold all the toys that made Lucas so much money. They're a big part of the Star Wars universe. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Star Wars certainly has that fairytale feel to it, which is possibly why it's so popular, and the science fiction elements are secondary in plot importance to the spiritual stuff. The space ships and alien races are just facilitators of the action, where as it's about Luke's discovery of the Force and the battle between good and evil that results. But at the same time, all the awesome ships and weapons and stuff is almost certainly what sold all the toys that made Lucas so much money. They're a big part of the Star Wars universe. |
Indeed.
By the way, Jack, I do know I hold a very deflationary view of art (It's just art!) and I'm often knocking big names (with few exceptions: I still haven't found a flaw in Dostoevsky), but that's precisely because I love it and I do that because I hold the opinion that taking anything too seriously stifles creativity (if you read my other posts, I do just the same in science and philosophy - and I'm a PhD candidate in a topic that involves both fields; and, hell, why do you think I never finished that novel? If I really didn't care about literature either, I'd have finished it ages ago :p). I don't know if you refrained from writing that earlier based on this iconoclasm of mine, but I do want to let you know that I do care about your opinions, and that you've never wasted a minute of yours writing something for me :)
Even when I knew what the argument would be (such as Star Wars being fantasy rather than science fiction), it's always nice to see a different way to structure the same ideas. |
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| Meat187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Quick reminder: You ARE in this thread :p |
My reaction:
Also Lira, where is your token review criticizing the book for how much of a linguistic nonsense the Nadsat slang in it is? |
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| Lira |
:stongue:
And, except for 1984, I don't think I've ever mentioned any erroneous ideas about language in any other book :conf: |
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| Meat187 |
Whenever some hippy tells me about how people are basically good and how with just the right cultural changes (read: communism) we can all live together in a happy society with no poverty I tell that their vision is Clockwork Orange.
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
Whenever some hippy tells me about how people are basically good and how with just the right cultural changes (read: communism) we can all live together in a happy society with no poverty I tell that their vision is Clockwork Orange.
ing hippies! :mad: |
And you disagree with that because...? |
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| Meat187 |
... because I haven't smoked myself retarded with pot.
Also because people are not good. And because there always will be poverty and social inequality. And because no amount of ty flower power festivals in the mud will change that always a bunch of s will exploit and rule over a bunch of suppressed s. And because a society that forces its people to be "good" by any standard, one that tries to control them like a clockwork, is a nightmare. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
... because I haven't smoked myself retarded with pot.
Also because people are not good. And because there always will be poverty and social inequality. And because no amount of ty flower power festivals in the mud will change that always a bunch of s will exploit and rule over a bunch of suppressed s. And because a society that forces its people to be "good" by any standard, one that tries to control them like a clockwork, is a nightmare. |
All right, that sounds like more of an argument :p |
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| Meat187 |
| I'm not that pessimistic about society, though. Inequality and suppression are OK as long as I'm on the right side of it. I fully embrace my evil nature. :) |
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| Adam420 |
| It was really ed up when it came out? |
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| Chimney |
| This thread gives me a headache. Are Brazilian chicks hot? |
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