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Occupy Oakland stream - chaos starting
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DaveT
teargas dispersed. Protestors are making lines preparing for rubber bullets.

Have a ninja camera man streaming

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-oakland-live









Live video for mobile from Ustream
chavalukes
Thats a lot of cops! Whats the need for so many? Isn't this a peaceful thing? Seems like somethings about to seriously go down.
mobius9
holy here it goes
DaveT
The guy doesn't know that a major occupy channel on livestream is broadcasting his stream along with a few other spots and there's probably 11,000-12,000 people watching. He just knows his ustream number.....lots of ppl witnessing this.
chavalukes
About to go down again. Cops just warned that if they do not leave in 5 minutes they will be forced to leave with "chemical agents".
DaveT
Another stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/anonmedics

The ustream's dudes battery is about to die. one person showed up to give him another, but wrong kind. Someone who supposedly has the right battery on his way.

I get addicted to this stuff. hehe
chavalukes
quote:

I get addicted to this stuff. hehe

Same here man..
I have an exam in the morning, i think its time i call it a night.
Nerologic
Anyone have any good YouTube links?
72hrpartyanimal
is this Occupy thing really working? I'm all for it... but do protests really work nowadays?
DaveT
Protests can work - they do all over the world. It's just here too many people get irritated with the protests when nothing comes out of it quickly. It can take weeks, months, or years.

That said, I'm not sure if I'm for it all or not. I'm simply crazily intrigued. But I do understand the frustration. And I do understand how they feel they can't do much - don't have a voice. People may not support them, but I still have yet to see one person - whether a friend, on the radio, on TV, or anything - come up with a good alternative. Everyone says go vote and make change -- yeah, that's made a lot of difference in the past. Everyone says they should be on the white house because the corporations haven't broken any laws. There are no laws because the corporations own the government -- plus where's the simple thing of moral responsibility? Few corporations show it. And people are pissed.

jonmitz
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Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
is this Occupy thing really working? I'm all for it... but do protests really work nowadays?


They have already raised the tax burden on the rich in Isreal.


And you can't vote to make changes anymore. Everyone who runs for president in a D or R seat is in the pocket of corporations and the rich. Until they remove the electoral college (such a stupid system), or change it with something better (don't ask me) there really isn't a point of voting, is there? I will still vote, knowing it wont make a difference.

When you have the white house posting up petitions online asking "the people" what issues, laws, policies, etc, they want changed and then you hand waive every single one of them it just goes to show...

There are other people who are better at writing things out than me, but here you go. Just a few thoughts.
jonmitz
Warning, image dump. I have sources for all of these so just ask if you want one. These aren't all of the graphs I have, there are a ton more. Sorry, they aren't organized at all. You can find similar threads on reddit or the somethingawful forums

CLICK: http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2...html?ref=sunday














gunna stop at this point with this late on, my favorite, the republican proposed 9-9-9




and something lighthearted
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