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Do Drugs Inspire Creative Thinking? (pg. 3)
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| jvs |
Anecdotal evidence is bollocks. Any sane person knows that.
That's why the best answer to this question is simply stating that it's hard to test the claim due to ambiguity related to what constitutes creativity.
People can throw anecdotal evidence around as they please, but it will be nothing more than just a bunch of subjective interpretations that mean absolutely nothing. Someone thinking that drugs make them more creative is equivalent to someone thinking that he cures common cold with Vitamin C. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by aNYthing
Spice, surprisingly gave me similar but weaker and shorter buzz, not entirely unlike sticky, without the memory/concentration problems for next few days. This was an interesting discovery. |
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/...ter-smoking-k2/
I'd be careful with that stuff. I know at least a few people who had very, very bad experiences with it.
I try to stay away from any kind of mind altering substance that's legal. Spice, Bath salts (MDPV), mephedrone, etc. If you have to say "it's kind of like ______, but it's new so the FDA hasn't had a chance to ban it yet" it's probably not a good idea. |
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| Vector A |
| quote: | Originally posted by aNYthing
Utter bollox. Based on personal, first hand experience. |
My experience has consistently been the opposite. Stoned, tripping, or drunk -- I have always been totally useless at music or anything else creative while ed up. So I don't think weed or any other drug is some magical gateway to being creative. It's probably different for different people. For every person who smokes a joint and has a great idea, there's probably another who can't come up with a thing and decides to watch movies and eat a bag of chips instead.
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vector A
For every person who smokes a joint and has a great idea, there's probably another who can't come up with a thing and decides to watch movies and eat a bag of chips instead. |
Hah, I think your ratio is a bit generous. Almost every person who has a great idea while high ends up watching movies and eating chips instead. :p
//And then later realizes it was not a great idea. Well, sometimes they realize. |
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| yujie__ |
| Look at what happen to Jobs |
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| Vector A |
| quote: | Originally posted by yujie__
Look at what happen to Jobs |
Lesson learned: drugs give you pancreatic cancer. |
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| aNYthing |
| quote: | Originally posted by jvs
Anecdotal evidence is bollocks. Any sane person knows that.
That's why the best answer to this question is simply stating that it's hard to test the claim due to ambiguity related to what constitutes creativity.
People can throw anecdotal evidence around as they please, but it will be nothing more than just a bunch of subjective interpretations that mean absolutely nothing. Someone thinking that drugs make them more creative is equivalent to someone thinking that he cures common cold with Vitamin C. |
Fair enough. All I can say is that my more creative/free side comes out when I'm blazed. And then there's this other side that insists on watching Formula 51, Human Traffic, or Harrold and Kumar for the millionth time, while muching on marshmallow turkey sammich with tabasco and jelly. |
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| meriter |
I'm staying away from this thread because it should've been closed after this post:
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Drugs have the power to decimate the years of social indoctrination piled upon people throughout their upbringing. This sometimes has the effect of penetrating peoples' learned inhibitions and makes them seem more "creative". Just the same, dissolving this indoctrination can pose a hazard, as people can easily unlearn how to cope in society; For better, or for worse.
As far as the will to create, however, that is a different thing entirely. Drugs cannot bestow it, they can merely allow for the ideas to flow. Most everyone has outlandish thoughts and experiences to express and share, but to communicate them is a language all its own, and not an insignificant part of art and the human experience. |
Will probably go on for ages though. |
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| Quazar |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Yeah, E has declined and so has the quality of uplifting and melodic music, and the popularity of ketamine and so on has lead to a lot of dark, slow and twitchy dance music which us erstwhile laser-grabbing trance fans have always struggled to accept. But there was an awful lot of e dance music trends in the '90s, from toy-town rave to hard dance to Dutch trance, and if you ever thought any of that sounded good it was only because you were rolling your face off. |
I liked Dutch trance (and to an extent still do) when I was a completely sober teenager, never even had a sip of alcohol. Most likely because teenagers are more overtly emotional than adults, so cheesy emotional music jives well with them. As you get older, I presume the brain starts cutting way back on the number of experiences that release a lot of seratonin naturally, so cheesy music doesn't have the same effect. Instead of sounding inspirational, it just sounds cheesy. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Quazar
I liked Dutch trance (and to an extent still do) when I was a completely sober teenager, never even had a sip of alcohol. |
Sober teenagers were not a notable demographic of '90s club culture. |
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