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Do Drugs Inspire Creative Thinking? (pg. 4)
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Sober teenagers were not a notable demographic of '90s club culture. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Quazar
As you get older, I presume the brain starts cutting way back on the number of experiences that release a lot of seratonin naturally, so cheesy music doesn't have the same effect. Instead of sounding inspirational, it just sounds cheesy. |
Dopamine is the neurotransmitter that causes certain music to make you feel good I believe. |
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| Quazar |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Sober teenagers were not a notable demographic of '90s club culture. |
You implied that people liked Dutch trance and similar styles because of drugs, and would otherwise not enjoy that music. My experience was quite different. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Quazar
You implied that people liked Dutch trance and similar styles because of drugs, and would otherwise not enjoy that music. My experience was quite different. |
I think you're taking me too literally. |
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| Quazar |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I think you're taking me too literally. |
Yeah, probably. :p
And SRussell, I thought seratonin was the "everything is so amazing" one and dopamine was the "argh, give me food and sex" one. I could be wrong, though.
And why were the substances so much "better" in the 90s? I mean, you can definitely tell in old videos that people are having a crazy good time, but what was different about it? If it's simply a chemical compound, then the only variable should be dosage amount, right? Or is there more at play than that? |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Quazar
And why were the substances so much "better" in the 90s? |
Because they weren't cut with so much . It's not that you can't still find good drugs, but it's definitely way harder these days. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
Because they weren't cut with so much . It's not that you can't still find good drugs, but it's definitely way harder these days. |
I think the real question is why are they cut up with now, but weren't before? |
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| Quazar |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I think the real question is why are they cut up with now, but weren't before? |
I assume profits. Use less of the good stuff, and throw in another (cheaper) stimulant as an additive, and you can charge the same.
Though even when good stuff comes around, and some of my friends look WAY happier at events, it doesn't even compare to that one infamous party video from the 90s that's been posted around here a few times. I mean holy crap, what the hell are those people ON? |
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| srussell0018 |
That seems pretty obvious. It maximizes profit. It seemed more pervasive back then because it wasn't policed as heavily, but its use now is surely quite a bit more than it was at that time. Since the demand is higher, the production cost is lowered by cutting it.
Pure MDMA now is exactly the same as pure MDMA from back then. It's just harder to find. |
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| Lews |
I think Jack was asking why they DIDN'T cut it back then.
I'm guessing, anyways, since the question of why they DO cut it seems rather obvious lol |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I think the real question is why are they cut up with now, but weren't before? |
I couldn't really say for sure. Regarding ecstasy in particular, it really took off in the 90s when the rave/club culture went into overdrive. More demand for pills, still roughly the same amount of people producing drugs - Producers started cutting it up to make their go further? Or, prices for certain ingredients went up due to increased police presence in the scene, so cutting it up further was just a cheaper/less traceable option?
Could be any number of other things though  |
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| srussell0018 |
| That is a much better question. A lot of the stuff E is cut with now (piperazine, etc) were created before MDMA was, so you'd think they'd be used then as well. |
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