Originally posted by Lews
I think Jack was asking why they DIDN'T cut it back then.
I'd have thought that didn't need specifying.
srussell0018
Italicizing the "why" kind of makes the question misleading I guess.
Quazar
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I'd have thought that didn't need specifying.
I guess it's just one of those things that takes a while to happen. At first the producers were probably ok with their profit margins, but eventually just got greedy. Or new producers showed up with the "brilliant" idea to cut it up with stuff.
Also, here's the obligatory video. Never gets old:
LAdazeNYnights
i think a lot of people today mistake pipes/things of that nature for mdxx+?, thinking just x cut with something.
i was reading a few months back how the manufacture of piperazines carries a much smaller fine/prison sentence in canada than the manufacture of mdma does, so that contributes to why it's more and more popular on this continent. from what i could tell, the e market in nyc has all but went to - it's flooded with pipes. presses that are known as pipes are being repressed and rerepressed because nobody cares. buying pills in nyc, you're almost guaranteed to be buying g-ladys or stars, both of which have been seen to be almost exclusively pipes.
anyway, what i'm trying to say is....i guess e probably is a lot worse than it used to be in many places - but people will always try to delude themselves by saying that it's cut with something but otherwise it's mdma. ya. ok.
srussell0018
That's why you should only ever buy crystals.
WittyHandle
And you should only ever bang girls that are a 10.
And you should only drive Lamborghinis.
And you should only ever eat caviar.
Cause the primo is always just laying around.
Vector A
Can't speak to other chemicals, but in the case of ecstasy in particular, one reason is that different people were making and selling the drugs.
I think this is mentioned in the Peter Jennings doc on ecstasy, but in Dallas, one of the early epicenters of ecstasy activity, you had actual medical (high standards) manufacture of it and big distributors who really bought into the whole "drugs will change the world and make everybody love each other" deal. Obviously those types would want their customers to get the real , the good . Whereas later on, after the criminalization and the big '90s crackdown, the people who made and sold it are the same people who make and sell everything else (aka the ones who don't give a crap about anything other than profits).
Originally posted by WittyHandle
And you should only ever bang girls that are a 10.
And you should only drive Lamborghinis.
And you should only ever eat caviar.
Cause the primo is always just laying around.
Dumb comment is dumb.
If the quality of E is so bad, and if the adulterants pressed into it can be so dangerous, then don't ing buy it. Pretty simple.
Or you can buy ty drugs and then complain about how ty they are.
OR you could not buy drugs at all and still have a good time.
EddieZilker
Regarding MDMA quality:
1. It's extremely hard to make. It's easier to make methamphetamine. To make MDMA, one should have serious experience with organic chemistry. The level of expertise required to make it puts it well above your average underground chemist and, as a chemistry professor put it to me, if you're smart enough to know how to make MDMA, you're also smart enough to know that you shouldn't.
2. The precursor is now very highly restricted. The chief ingredient is safrole which is distilled into iso-safrole before it's put in an amalgam bath where the impure essential oil of MDMA is synthesized. The reason it is important is because of its molecular carbon ring. Without that carbon ring, there is nothing capable of bonding to the neurological receptor. Due to the scarcity of safrole obtainable by the underground chemist, successfully yielded MDMA is subject to more adulterating compounds in order to maximize the number of doses. Other synthesis routs can be tried but the yield is predominantly inert compound consisting largely of incomplete/fractured carbon rings if they even get that far.
Sushipunk
Eddie totally used to work cooking drugs, IMO.
nefardec
i'm going to imagine eddie as walter white from now on.
