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Julz
lmao your comparing 2 totally different things.
And i'm sure your prefer real knobs
meriter
Nice.
cryophonik
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Originally posted by Julz
lmao your comparing 2 totally different things.
And i'm sure your prefer real knobs


I use hardware and software and I don't claim that one is better than the other. The point is, some people do and always will prefer the hands-on functionality of dedicated hardware for some/many/all tasks and you're never going to see a day where everybody is making music with a computer and no real instruments are used. Factor in newer items like the iPad and dedicated controllers and the line between hardware and software becomes more and more blurred. My point is, your claim that VSTs/AUs will put hardware to shame is an ignorant and tired argument that simply needs to go away. That is all.
Julz
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Originally posted by cryophonik
I use hardware and software and I don't claim that one is better than the other. The point is, some people do and always will prefer the hands-on functionality of dedicated hardware for some/many/all tasks and you're never going to see a day where everybody is making music with a computer and no real instruments are used. Factor in newer items like the iPad and dedicated controllers and the line between hardware and software becomes more and more blurred. My point is, your claim that VSTs/AUs will put hardware to shame is an ignorant and tired argument that simply needs to go away. That is all.


I simply meant that software VST's will out preform their hardware counterparts.
How is that such a problem. The fact that a ipad or other controllers may give the impression that it is a real instrument still does not change the fact it will be controlling a VST. This is a pointless argument, just like the digital VS analog debate. When that VST appears dont worry i'll be sure to PM you.
cryophonik
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Originally posted by Julz
but soon dont worry, VST/AU's will put hardware to shame.


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Originally posted by Julz
This is a pointless argument, just like the digital VS analog debate.


Exactly. [facepalm]
orTofønChiLd
Get a voyager and a blofeld
evo8
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Originally posted by cryophonik
Oh puleez, let's not beat that dead horse again. Hardware is about hands-on tactile control and using/owning a physical instrument.



And if Urs had decided to place that same digital code on a chip inside a shiny metal box, then hardware would be putting VSTs/AUs to shame?


I assumed he was talking about the sound - no-ones ever going to question the hands on aspect of hardware
cryophonik
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Originally posted by evo8
I assumed he was talking about the sound - no-ones ever going to question the hands on aspect of hardware


Ahem...

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Originally posted by Julz
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Originally posted by cryophonik
Oh puleez, let's not beat that dead horse again. Hardware is about hands-on tactile control and using/owning a physical instrument.



And? what difference does it make if you can physically touch it or not?


If he was talking about sound: (a) he wouldn't have questioned it, and (b) why would the 1s and 0s placed in a computer put the same 1s and 0s "to shame" if they were placed in an external box? IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Software is software, and there is nothing magical about putting it in a metal box, nor is a metal box "put to shame" or "outperformed" by putting it on a hard drive. Why is this so hard for people to comprehend? The argument is ing stupid.
Julz
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Originally posted by cryophonik
Ahem...




And? what difference does it make if you can physically touch it or not?


If he was talking about sound: (a) he wouldn't have questioned it, and (b) why would the 1s and 0s placed in a computer put the same 1s and 0s "to shame" if they were placed in an external box? IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Software is software, and there is nothing magical about putting it in a metal box, nor is a metal box "put to shame" or "outperformed" by putting it on a hard drive. Why is this so hard for people to comprehend? The argument is ing stupid. [/QUOTE]

EXACTLY!!!!
If its all the same then why would someone pay $2000 for Software in a metal box when you can get it for 150-300 in a VST. That is what the i was talking about. Thats how it will put hardware to shame.
Whats ing stupid is your inability to stop trying to prove your point.
cryophonik
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Originally posted by Julz

EXACTLY!!!!
If its all the same then why would someone pay $2000 for Software in a metal box when you can get it for 150-300 in a VST. That is what the i was talking about. Thats how it will put hardware to shame.
Whats ing stupid is your inability to stop trying to prove your point.


Ok, chief. When software takes over the world and every musician stops buying and using expensive hardware, PM me and I will heap praises upon you for your incredible intellect and foresight. Until then, I'm done with this stupid argument and I should have known better than to get into it with a newb "producer" who can't even comprehend why a musician would want a quality piece of hardware to perform on.

Julz
Haha I see i hit a nerve or something if you had to try get personal against someone you dont even know ^^
cryophonik
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Originally posted by Julz
Haha I see i hit a nerve or something if you had to try get personal against someone you dont even know ^^


I don't have nerves - I've been replaced by software. :p Have a nice day.

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Originally posted by Julz
but soon dont worry, VST/AU's will put hardware to shame.


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Originally posted by Julz
And? what difference does it make if you can physically touch it or not?
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