Originally posted by Chimney
How is this a stupid thread in any way? It incited to a great discussion, both opinion-wise and historic-wise.
Yep, now I see..., you're right :) I was reading only on the first page when I wrote the reply...:happy2: :happy2:
sljiva
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Because you felt it necessary to defend techno's honour even after I gave a caveat to the great artists it has produced, as if I'm not aware of them. I was never trying to "dismiss techno as a whole", quite the opposite, so why so defensive?
And I should point I prefer techno to house or disco and listen to it a lot more, but the point stands that you made a dismissive and unfair generalisation against a whole genre, and you freak the out when I even hypothetically make a similar one about techno.
It was not freaking out, I did it because this is actually a thread about techno and I thought it would be appropriate to supplement my own opinions from original post with a short list of artists that were/are hugely important, and which make techno not susceptible to this kind of generalisation. I know you've hypothetically made that statement, but I merely used it as a starting point to express something I felt like I had to do even earlier.
Hypocritically as it seems, I think generalisations sometimes have their place, especially on forums. It would be pretty hard to express anything, particularly in threads that deal with comparing two 25+ year old huge genres such as this, without using them. But this is an open forum, and people should be perfectly open to withdraw all of their thoughts and opinions if the other side proves them wrong. So far, nobody did it either for disco or house.
SYSTEM-J
You just seemed very confrontational with your "So you can try to dismiss techno as a whole, but you'll make a fool out of yourself" line.
When taking any genre as a whole, generalisation is a risky business. I seem to remember some genre critic who said it's better to discuss genres in terms of their idealised forms - what a genre aspires towards, if not what it always achieves. Chic may be an exceptionally good disco band, but they represent what disco as a genre could be in its idealised moments.
zyklon-jay
not to mention the comment about funk and soul being so much smarter than disco. the reality is that all of this music is intertwined. the parliment comment was funny because parliment was played in discos just as much as anything from chic.
Motown was played in discos, George Clinton made tracks for discos too.
sljiva
Parliament may have been played in discos alongside Chic, but my comment wasn't about usefulness of their music on the dancefloor. I was talking about their musical quality, and I think we can all agree that a fluid psychedelic jams of a band of more than of dozen instruments perfectly complementing each other, exploring the sci-fi and afrofuturism themes and numerous types of grooves, moods and atmospheres, innovating (well-known underwater effect of the music) along the way and influencing everyone from early electro and techno to g-funk producers, while still maintaining the high danceability along the way count way more in terms of musical merit than songs from a band whose main objective was to provide as much dancefloor fun as possible.
But again, that's just one aspect of music and certainly not the most important for majority of disco bands.
Rodri Santos
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Originally posted by dj christian
There is no difference between techno and house. However there is a difference between prog house and prog trance.
There is, if you listen to pure techno and pure house the comparison is as easy as electro house and hardstyle. The problem is that nowadays when you go to listen to techno to a club unless those who play dub techno who usually keep loyal to it during the set in my experience people tend to mix housy tunes into the mix, something that is perfectly fine for me.
Now take house:
A lot more percussive, bassline is towards the mids while techno pretends to be simple and darker. Very few tracks clearly fall into the category though, is as harder as distinguishing between prog.house and new farty trance
Woony
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Originally posted by Rodri Santos
.. seriously?
Adam420
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Originally posted by Woony
.. seriously?
More or less my reaction but I honestly don't care to prove him wrong
Chimney
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Originally posted by Rodri Santos
Those examples of techno are the worst you could have come up with. Seriously, did you do it on purpose? No, I'm not even kidding.
ErinaAndrea
I think house is the better option! :gsmile:
Woony
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Originally posted by Adam420
More or less my reaction but I honestly don't care to prove him wrong
even besides that, dj christian was obviously trolling and you have to be pretty damn dense to even take that post seriously.
