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What audio interface are you using for your DAW? (pg. 3)
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
He's taking the piss. It was because UAD were so ing slow to update their that by the time they got around it, their products were dated and virtually obsolete. |
were ? I sold 2 Quads with every plugin because i just couldn't handle the bull. They would release new plugins but ignore what everyone wanted then they come out with a very vague letter from the CEO saying that um we are like doing are best man. |
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| MSZ |
| quote: | Originally posted by MSZ
brospehs, what should i upgrade to from this? i run this to a mixer.
ESI Maya 44 USB
ESI Maya 44 USB audio interface - 44.1/48kHz sample rate, 4x in/ 4x thomann out (RCA phono), 18-bit A/D, 20-bit D/A, -10dBV unbalance in/out, optical S/PDIF out (mini-jack connector), headphone output (mini-jack) with 60mW amplifier, ASIO 2.0 and CoreAudio support (4x in/4x out), MME/WDM support (2x in/2x out), standard USB-PC/Mac connection, compatible with Windows & Mac OS, thomann compact & lightweight design.
i do want one or two synths, balanced output, but thats about it. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| the RME UC is the best USB device being sold at the moment. I used it on a laptop and the latency was as small as a pci card and rock solid. I've heard it from many sources so it isn't some paid music mag review, it really is that good. Unless you don't have to use USB , get the UC. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
the RME UC is the best USB device being sold at the moment. I used it on a laptop and the latency was as small as a pci card and rock solid. I've heard it from many sources so it isn't some paid music mag review, it really is that good. Unless you don't have to use USB , get the UC. |
+1. RME have always had their together, and the UC is a continuation of that. Only problem is that it's $1300 and probably waaaay too much I/O for MSZ.
The RME babyface at $799 is a great little interface as well but if you're looking to spend less than that, the best thing below $500 are (yet again) the ECHO Audiofire Range. You can get the 4, 8 or 12. The 4 should not set you back more than $250 and does 6in/4out with midi and useable pres/hi Z inputs. |
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| MSZ |
| great thanks rann, sorry i didnt post my budget, but 1300 much too much haha. im just looking to upgrade sound quality mainly. |
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| Mel David |
I think you're fine with what you have. You're not going to get any discernible increase in quality till you start spending big bucks, and even then it's only a small percentage which most people can't even hear.
If you are recording vocals or live instruments, its the quality of your mics, their positioning and room treatment that is going to mostly affect the quality of your recording, rather than an audio interface.
If you are recording line-level sources such as hardware synths, you don't really need boutique audio interfaces. Concentrate on your sound-design and arrangement, rather than your recording quality, as it's pretty hard to get a recording with these sources using budget gear, unless you do stupid things like having your hardware source at at too quiet a level and compensating at the destination. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mel David
I think you're fine with what you have. You're not going to get any discernible increase in quality till you start spending big bucks, and even then it's only a small percentage which most people can't even hear.
If you are recording vocals or live instruments, its the quality of your mics, their positioning and room treatment that is going to mostly affect the quality of your recording, rather than an audio interface.
If you are recording line-level sources such as hardware synths, you don't really need boutique audio interfaces. Concentrate on your sound-design and arrangement, rather than your recording quality, as it's pretty hard to get a recording with these sources using budget gear, unless you do stupid things like having your hardware source at at too quiet a level and compensating at the destination. |
I disagree - Used to work for the UK distributor of ESI and to say their sound quality is average is an understatement. I remember A/B a Maya 44 against a M-Audio Delta 1010 and there was a small but noticeable difference in clarity in favor of the 1010. Now put the fact that IMO the ECHO range interfaces sound markedly better than a 1010 in to perspective - the ECHO would be a considerable upgrade for hardly any cash.
Having said all this, Mac makes ing wicked music on crap equipment and entirely ITB in reason, so I don't really think he needs to concentrate on much apart from continuing to push out good music. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
+1. RME have always had their together, and the UC is a continuation of that. Only problem is that it's $1300 and probably waaaay too much I/O for MSZ.
The RME babyface at $799 is a great little interface as well but if you're looking to spend less than that, the best thing below $500 are (yet again) the ECHO Audiofire Range. You can get the 4, 8 or 12. The 4 should not set you back more than $250 and does 6in/4out with midi and useable pres/hi Z inputs. |
what is great about it tho is that it has a different protocol depending on whether you are using PC or MAC so that USB transfer is optimum. I was getting 2 ms latency at 256 with no drop outs at all. And the CPU was at 80 with alot of tracks and using 4 I/O to hardware. It was the first time really using a non pci/pcix sound card that was just as good.
I think the babyface has the same drivers. If so, get that. Stability is so important for the creative process. You know that feeling that things are going to crash eventually, that is so hard to work with.
although my apogee is . It was on the high side tho. But man , it looks sexy. = |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
what is great about it tho is that it has a different protocol depending on whether you are using PC or MAC so that USB transfer is optimum. I was getting 2 ms latency at 256 with no drop outs at all. And the CPU was at 80 with alot of tracks and using 4 I/O to hardware. It was the first time really using a non pci/pcix sound card that was just as good.
I think the babyface has the same drivers. If so, get that. Stability is so important for the creative process. You know that feeling that things are going to crash eventually, that is so hard to work with.
although my apogee is . It was on the high side tho. But man , it looks sexy. = |
Tru dat. RME have always been great at that german efficiency thing.
oh, and the ensemble & symphony are ing beautiful. Do you find it has the "Apogee sound"? |
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| MSZ |
| appreciate the kind words and for the info. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Tru dat. RME have always been great at that german efficiency thing.
oh, and the ensemble & symphony are ing beautiful. Do you find it has the "Apogee sound"? |
lol oh ya , its like hearing audio for the first time.
Nope. Although the worst sound card i've ever had was a delta 1010 in 2001 then an rme HDSP in 2003. Really it is about stability and because you can interface say my 2 mac pros, its just , well its just magical.
I am pretty much all ITB. |
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