Over the past 2-3 months, i have been learning a lot ...production wise and i am slowly beginning to realize how straight forward EDM music production can be(80-90% of the times).....and even though i can't boast of excellent sounding tracks at this moment. i can safely say i want to do something more..maybe i am just too bored with trance/prog house and it might have been a phase(a good one at that)....I even thought a long break might help....but it didn't....so anyways coming to the point....I think i want to try my hand in composing music for films/tv/video games
I am looking for advice for the following:
1.) Do i need to go to a music school to understand the nuances of music production???..and when i say music production i mean.... Film/Video Game/TV scoring...I have searched online and i found that berklee was the best and even they offer an online course... is it worth spending the money to learn how scores are created? or should learning and practicing an instrument like a guitar/piano/clarinet be a better start?..
2.) are there any forums for people who are interested in scoring...something like what tranceaddict is for trance addicts :P?...
3.)What else genres should i be listening to apart from classical to have an understanding of the type of music used in film/tv??
Please excuse me if my questions seem vague and please correct me if i am wrong..
and ya looking forward for your replies :)
DJRYAN™
from the sounds of the tracks on your SoundCloud.. I'd say you have more than a great start... Keep it up.. and No.. IMO you don't need sound school.. Just put together a song.. make it good.. and then find a good master.. At least that's what I know to do.. Some of these other guys on here might have another opinion though.. Anyways.. Why Film/TV?? Why not be a good downtempo producer.. that's obviously your niche =)
sylvannas
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Originally posted by DJRYAN™
from the sounds of the tracks on your SoundCloud.. I'd say you have more than a great start... Keep it up.. and No.. IMO you don't need sound school.. Just put together a song.. make it good.. and then find a good master.. At least that's what I know to do.. Some of these other guys on here might have another opinion though.. Anyways.. Why Film/TV?? Why not be a good downtempo producer.. that's obviously your niche =)
Haha thanks man... the only form of EDM i love producing is break beat now and i love that genre... and there were times when i had a tear roll down my eyes while watching movies,because of the intensity the music brought out in that particular scene... so ya i want to make people cry :P
stewart.m
3.)What else genres should i be listening to apart from classical to have an understanding of the type of music used in film/tv??
DJRYAN™
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Originally posted by sylvannas
Haha thanks man... the only form of EDM i love producing is break beat now and i love that genre... and there were times when i had a tear roll down my eyes while watching movies,because of the intensity the music brought out in that particular scene... so ya i want to make people cry :P
well keep at it.. Your tunes are pretty decent..
sylvannas
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Originally posted by stewart.m
3.)What else genres should i be listening to apart from classical to have an understanding of the type of music used in film/tv??
Yes now this is what i am talking about :toothless
Looney4Clooney
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Originally posted by DJRYAN™
from the sounds of the tracks on your SoundCloud.. I'd say you have more than a great start... Keep it up.. and No.. IMO you don't need sound school.. Just put together a song.. make it good.. and then find a good master.. At least that's what I know to do.. Some of these other guys on here might have another opinion though.. Anyways.. Why Film/TV?? Why not be a good downtempo producer.. that's obviously your niche =)
why do you insist on giving advice on topics you know nothing about ? Are you that lonely and bored that being heard is one of life's few luxuries.
To answer you question, scoring has nothing to do with production, and less than you think with music. IT isn't a genre, and to be honest , to learn how to score involves less learning how to write music, which should be a prerequisite , and more understanding the medium you are scoring for ie film, tv , video games whatever. IT is really a study of form.
As far as learning, the only obstacle is time , your own natural ability and work ethic. If you are able to learn on your own. you can learn how to write like mahler on your own. It will take you 20 years of every day study but all the tools are easily found on the web ie scores and recordings.
School will help those that tend to not learn well on their own for whatever reason. School also allows time and the security or at least the comfort of not doing anything and just learning your craft and not feeling like a bum. This is pretty much why it is kinda necessary to learn classical composition because nobody has 8 years in their adulthood to just spend on learning how to write. And 2 hours a day isn't going to cut it.
The biggest forum where people that work in the industry congregate is VI. But then again, there is little talk about scoring and mostly just talk about samples.
As far as what music to listen to, again , this is the same misunderstanding everyone seems to make. Film music isn't a genre. If you want to learn scoring, listen to scores. That means the actual video with film. The second you remove the video, it is no longer a score. So when you buy an OST, i really isn't a score at that point and is of no use in terms of learning to score. It is just music at that point.
LIstened to your soundcloud. You sort of fit in that group of everyone that wants to do scoring but will probably never end up doing it. That isn't a gurarantee. I have just hear enough of these types of things, and they tend to all be the same written by individuals that have this illusion of what the industry is. Basically, they are not very serious about it and unless you jump out of the plane , you won't ever be doing it.
Talent and ability are prerequisites. That gets you in the door. To succeed, it has to be your life. You have to be doing it 12 -16 hours a day every day. Say goodbye to vacations, you won't be having a family for a long time, and your girlfriend,. well she isn't going to like it either. It is alot of work, most only start doing well in their 50s and you need to really ask yourself if this is something you find appealing.
tehlord
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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
It is alot of work, most only start doing well in their 50s and you need to really ask yourself if this is something you find appealing.
Fuuuuuck
I've only got a decade to squeeze in 30 years practice then.
Looney4Clooney
or be in a super rock group like Cream or something and do it that way. Your choice. You would first have to be in one of the worlds biggest bands, then break up , and join 3 other members that were also in one of the biggest bands, then break up and move to hollywood and say you like movies. That is the other option.
Okenfoald has been trying to get work. He gets the door shut everywhere he goes. But unlike the trend in the 80s where rockstars started doing films, Okenfoal literally has no talent what soever. He is just awful.
tehlord
He could get work as a double for the taxi driver in 'Scrooged'
DJRYAN™
BT gets pretty decent gigs..
Looney4Clooney
he does live in India tho. I imagine it is a bit different. The chinese film industry is also just huge and the music departments are somewhat still learning the ropes. But except for good food ( india ) i don't think you will me making money.
I actually love Chinese cinema. I've always wanted to work there just to be somewhere completely different for a year or two.
Video games is really the best industry to get into. It has the greatest potential and doesn't require as much of the traditional chops you need when working in film.
