you cannot enforce taste, neither is taste something that everyone likes, it can be distinct, or distant. Taste doesn't need to be tha flava of now. Neither is stuff always evolving in the right direction for everyone.
You're just a sheep, getting confused if you don't go with the "nu flow" that's really sad actually, it means that you don't have taste and are a bland mindless sheep without preference...MEH......
Beatflux
I used to be a "trance kid" but after a while it just gets old. There's only so much good trance and after that its all . I'd rather listen to the best of every genre, than pigeon hole myself into an old scene and pay homage to my so called religion by not listening to anything else.
Beatflux
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Originally posted by Raphie
Taste doesn't need to be tha flava of now. Neither is stuff always evolving in the right direction for everyone.
It's so easy to reject what's new and popular. You know why? It's because its different than anything else that's every been done.
Raphie
There is no scene... there are no genres, those are only called upon to find assurarance that one is liking the "right" thing (what sheep want to be identified with)
for me there is only good or bad music. Both are being produced today and have been produced in the past. And will most likely keep on being produced in the future.
dj_alfi
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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
pretty sure his name was rufio that screamed that. The guy that looked Mauri. COuld be completely wrong but the name Rufio came up. If i'm right, my memory is ing awesome.
:haha:
It's Rufio, with like the feathery red hair and . but I'm pretty sure you mean mãori.so 1/2.
not sure if he's from NZ but yeah, def some sort of -nesian.
edit: he's pino.
dj_alfi
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Originally posted by Deillon
Claud Vonstroke aggressive, what, where?
DJ RANN
quote:
Originally posted by Beatflux
This all sounds like pure nostalgia.
I realized that if you don't want to end up like some of the old s on this forum, you have to start exposing yourself to new stuff. You can't just listen to one Dubstep song and say, "I DON'T GET IT, WHY ISN'T THIS LIKE GENRE X THAT I HAVE ADORED FOR YEARS!"
The other thing is that its easier to find great old music, than it is great new current music. Time filters out all of the crap, only the songs that are noteworthy are the ones that are most likely kept by people in their collections.
If you don't seek out any new music, then the chances of finding something good become less and less.
It's got nothing to do with nostalgia at all; I've been in to EDM since around 1994, starting off with hardcore/oldschool/rave and house. At that time epic house was the mainstay and that segwayed in to trance which then spawned off progressive which i love, then I got deep in to tech house shortly after that, and I've always loved me some deep house, breakbeat and DnB. I love most forms of EDM and even some rare tracks of dubstep but what seems prevalent is what i was talking about earlier, the point of which you missed; it's now about FX, gimmicks and phat you can slap distortion and a delay on your sawtooth lead.
I like EDM when the musical content is high quality and hate cheap shots which at the moment dominate some genres/movements in EDM. Take trance for instance - I was going to the going to the gym this morning, needed something quick to DL that was fast/high energy, so quickly grabbed the latest ASOT.
What a pile of . IN 2 hours of music, I could pick one or two tracks that had decent musical content in terms of composition and arrangement.
The biggest thing that struck me was: if you took the FX of this lead or better still the whole arrangement in a given track and played it with GM sounds, would it sound any good? Resounding no.
Try it.
Listen a bunch of "new" tracks, and think what would happen if you took away the pingpong delays, giant reverbs and distortion chains - with so damn many of them, you'd be left with virtually nothing apart from sparse, childish composition and arrangements.
Seriously, the amount of tracks played that were all FX/sound design and no substance was shocking. I'm not even talking about a qualitative or subjective argument about what melodies are "good" because that's an impossible argument, I'm just simply talking about the number of tracks that solely rely on FX as their wares.
If time filters out all the crap, then why are there so many more classics from the 90's than there are from the 00's? Surely 12 years is enough time to have filtered out the crap and let the classics shine, yet I struggle to name 50 classics from the 00 decade and can probably do that just for the period for 1996 to 1999 without thinking. (and don't come with "well, you probably just weren't in to it as much in the 00's etc" - I purchased more tracks in that decade than I did in the 90's as I finally had money to spend on tracks, not to mention they were either cheaper or even free).
DJ RANN
quote:
Originally posted by Beatflux
It's so easy to reject what's new and popular. You know why? It's because its different than anything else that's every been done.
But that's like the hipster argument; People don;t like change but if anything, it's difficult to reject what popular because in this society it's drilled in to us at every opportunity.
I ing hate the SHM/Afrojack/Avicii sound with a passion but that doesn't stop it from being played every single ing time I switch on the radio, turn on the TV or walk in bar.
Storyteller
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Originally posted by DJ RANN
I ing hate the SHM/Afrojack/Avicii sound with a passion but that doesn't stop it from being played every single ing time I switch on the radio, turn on the TV or walk in bar.
oh well, at least it has come to the point where it is like trance 8yrs ago. It's one mass of screamingly loud whining noises. It won't last that long anymore this way. I don't think it will survive summer 2013. But by then we'll have something else to hate.
I do not dislike more recent music in general, just the SHM sound in general.
Looney4Clooney
i can't really think of an EDM tune made post 90s pre 1998 that wasn't absolute junk. My personal tastes but there was this brutal period basically a decade of just awful drug required for listening garbage. Ya, sure about 20 tunes that were great. But overall, not so great.
Richard Butler
Out of interest for all things production, what do people think are the best tools for all the stuttering / slewing stuff?
I notice the same sounds in complextro / dub keep comming up such as;
+ Bit crushed vocal stutters and aaaaeeeeeooowwww sustained vocal licks
+ repeated door slamming type perc licks
+ very distinctive band passed filter synth sounds - what is this specific filter product I wonder. No filter I have is capable of getting the right tone
Do people hand make em, or are these often from sample packs?
Beatflux
quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
It's got nothing to do with nostalgia at all; I've been in to EDM since around 1994, starting off with hardcore/oldschool/rave and house. At that time epic house was the mainstay and that segwayed in to trance which then spawned off progressive which i love, then I got deep in to tech house shortly after that, and I've always loved me some deep house, breakbeat and DnB. I love most forms of EDM and even some rare tracks of dubstep but what seems prevalent is what i was talking about earlier, the point of which you missed; it's now about FX, gimmicks and phat you can slap distortion and a delay on your sawtooth lead.
I like EDM when the musical content is high quality and hate cheap shots which at the moment dominate some genres/movements in EDM. Take trance for instance - I was going to the going to the gym this morning, needed something quick to DL that was fast/high energy, so quickly grabbed the latest ASOT.
What a pile of . IN 2 hours of music, I could pick one or two tracks that had decent musical content in terms of composition and arrangement.
The biggest thing that struck me was: if you took the FX of this lead or better still the whole arrangement in a given track and played it with GM sounds, would it sound any good? Resounding no.
Try it.
Listen a bunch of "new" tracks, and think what would happen if you took away the pingpong delays, giant reverbs and distortion chains - with so damn many of them, you'd be left with virtually nothing apart from sparse, childish composition and arrangements.
Seriously, the amount of tracks played that were all FX/sound design and no substance was shocking. I'm not even talking about a qualitative or subjective argument about what melodies are "good" because that's an impossible argument, I'm just simply talking about the number of tracks that solely rely on FX as their wares.
If time filters out all the crap, then why are there so many more classics from the 90's than there are from the 00's? Surely 12 years is enough time to have filtered out the crap and let the classics shine, yet I struggle to name 50 classics from the 00 decade and can probably do that just for the period for 1996 to 1999 without thinking. (and don't come with "well, you probably just weren't in to it as much in the 00's etc" - I purchased more tracks in that decade than I did in the 90's as I finally had money to spend on tracks, not to mention they were either cheaper or even free).
