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Why do YOU like making Tracks? (pg. 4)
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
if I wanted to do something just to get famous, I'd write cheap bodice-rippers or something. The problem is that being the sole reason - and I've run into people who were doing it for glory and, as a result, doing it wrong. My excuse is that I'm just doing it wrong. But I still do it because it's what I like to do. |
Every scrub thinks its easy to sell out and write a hit. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
Ooh ooh, what about me? Do I become a big DJ?
Any musician who says he's not doing it for the attention or adoration is either a filthy liar, or doing it wrong. Even guys who play the role of low-key anonymity (e.g., Burial) are doing that just to increase the mystique around their name to draw more attention. It's pretty damned effective when done right. |
burial isn't a musician. And you don't know many great musicians. Because they all tend to hate the limelight intensely. And you can't use the doing it wrong card when you aren't even doing it. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
burial isn't a musician. And you don't know many great musicians. Because they all tend to hate the limelight intensely. And you can't use the doing it wrong card when you aren't even doing it. |
You're so cute when you try to argue. :D C'mon, you can do better than that. |
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| TranceLover007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
Someone who is incomplete? |
Nope, too old for stuff you still getting impress by ;)
Cheers,
Darek |
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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
Any musician who says he's not doing it for the attention or adoration is either a filthy liar, or doing it wrong. Even guys who play the role of low-key anonymity (e.g., Burial) are doing that just to increase the mystique around their name to draw more attention. It's pretty damned effective when done right. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
You're so cute when you try to argue. :D C'mon, you can do better than that. |
we aren't arguing, i'm telling you as someone that is doing what you attempted but failed who knows more people doing it, has more experience in pretty much every faculty of music telling you that your recollection of most musicians and professionals in the industry are very skewed and not realistic. I'm telling you. I'm glad you find it cute. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
we aren't arguing, i'm telling you as someone that is doing what you attempted but failed |
Naw, I never attempted to be a dumbass. :p |
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| Richard Butler |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
And you don't know many great musicians. Because they all tend to hate the limelight intensely.
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Being in the limelight is not the same thing as seeking validation and approval.
Kate Bush is a recluse but thrives on the feedback loop of others admiration and approval.
Artists that claim otherwise imo are like those really super cool English painters and physical medium artists that SAY money is not important yet still they cling to the majority of thier hoarde.
I sense that such artists never want to admit thier true inner drivers as that would be, well, selling out / crass / capitalist.
David Hockney claims money is nothing - funny then how he clings to tens of millions.
Validation takes many forms, but I think most artists want it.
Thats not to say you dont strive to make music YOU want to enjoy though.
Would you guys think sports people and actors also yearn validation and admiration?
If it's not about public validation, why not run quietly in the woods without anyone ever knowing? |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by Richard Butler
Being in the limelight is not the same thing as seeking validation and approval.
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In the spirit of great artists steal:
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| Richard Butler |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
In the spirit of great artists steal:
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Painters pretty much want others to look at thier efforts and validate and approve.
Listen closely to interviews with Authors and this yearning oozes out of them.
Doesn't any stage comedian feed off the audience laughter, isn't that direct feedback validation the entire point? No one wants to tell jokes and not get a laugh do they?
L4C - let me know an artist who doesn't care what the world (thier potential consumers) thinks about thier efforts, thier expressions of self. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by Euforix
I'm disappointed, why no one mentions ? |
Sure we did:
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
...doing it for the attention or adoration... |
| quote: | Originally posted by Richard Butler
...validation and approval.
...admiration and approval.
Validation...
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That's all code for what REALLY matters - fulfilling our biological instincts. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by Richard Butler
Painters pretty much want others to look at thier efforts and validate and approve.
Listen closely to interviews with Authors and this yearning oozes out of them.
Doesn't any stage comedian feed off the audience laughter, isn't that direct feedback validation the entire point? No one wants to tell jokes and not get a laugh do they?
L4C - let me know an artist who doesn't care what the world (thier potential consumers) thinks about thier efforts, thier expressions of self. |
i can't, bu you are conflating my words. I am calling your main motive pathetic. And again, you over simplify the issue. They don't do it to make people like them, they make something, and they hope it resonates. They don't do it to be congratulated. |
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