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Clowns in the EDM Scene
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| wackadoo |
King of the clowns. This nightmare within the scene really began with this douche.
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| alan |
| quote: | Originally posted by wackadoo
King of the clowns. This nightmare within the scene really began with this douche.
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I have to be honest though. We will never book Deadmau5. I don't even own one track of his. I don't like his music. I don't think he is a good DJ at all (I saw him at Circus in 2009 or 2008 thats it).
But taking that all out, I honestly think he is a good producer, if you take out all biases. Every song he has made is produced well. I may not like the genre he does or better yet his music, but I know when a track is produced well, and he does that.
The owner of Smog (intelligent dubstep) and his gf, who does Futra events (techno, house, funk), were hired to do some digital mapping and VJ-ing for his tour, and both were suprised and agreed with me, even if it went against everything they propagate musically. |
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| Quazar |
At this point, some kind of crowd interaction/performance is required because the booth is right in front of the crowd and most people are looking toward the DJ. That said, there are plenty of DJs who do a fine job of this without going over the top. In fact, guys like Carl Cox and Markus Schulz just having a blast behind the decks make you want to dance MORE, instead of stopping your dancing to see what silly routine they're going to perform.
Above & Beyond is another act that does a good job. The whole putting messages to the crowd on the screen and what not may be cheesy, but it reflects the vibe of the music, and frankly if 2 or 3 guys are up on stage, some of them should be doing something besides pretending to turn knobs. I'd rather them type messages to the crowd than just fist pump.
And I'm not a fan of Deadmau5, but he has said before that he doesn't consider himself a DJ and shouldn't be included in DJ polls. |
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| LAdazeNYnights |
| quote: | Originally posted by Quazar
At this point, some kind of crowd interaction/performance is required |
I disagree with this, but I do like the examples you give.
My best guess here is that the rise in popularity of 'clown djs' is attributable to the rise of the digital djing and the subsequent easing of requisites to actually be a 'dj'. You can play to a crowd of thousands without beat-matching tracks yourself once for hours or with prefabricated sections of sets.
They just don't want to be seen doing nothing behind the decks because then the game is up. Jumping around stupidly like Aoki does, for instance, is just a distraction --what's actually going on is that the music he plays no longer matters. Most people know what he's going to play, so they're there for the spectacle. It's the same with a lot of DJs now.
As for interaction/performance - what people seem to forget so often now is that by simply 'doing their jobs', DJs are interacting with the crowd quite effectively! Markus was brought up so I'll use him as an example. Yes he has a great time behind the decks and everybody can feed off of that, but there are also times where he's buried in the music for hours, barely looking up. That almost gives the same feeling as seeing a DJ digging through his vinyl. For me, at a party, watching a dj turn around and look through his vinyl, cue up record after record, that creates more of a connection than jesus poses or cake throwing ever could. |
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| 72hrpartyanimal |
^ excellent point.
digweed rarely makes any sudden movements while djing.
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| Quazar |
| quote: | Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
^ excellent point.
digweed rarely makes any sudden movements while djing.
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LOL, right after I posted my last post I thought "Actually, Digweed pretty much just stands there and doesn't interact at all and people love it..."
So I guess not EVERYBODY has to interact with the crowd. :p |
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| alan |
I have a different take.
I do prefer some kind of crowd interaction or "performances". Just not over-the-top cheesy moves and take your clothes off ones.
I still enjoy a party more if I see the DJs smiling, singing to himself, bumping or vibing to the beat.
When a DJ has his head down, with a cap, and he barely moves...even if the music is great, I still feel he is just going thru the motions.
I want to see passion for the music. But again, not over the top clown-like moves like the EC Twins removing their shirt and jumping around or Aoki throwing cakes/body surfing or the like. |
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| Quazar |
alan, sorry to go off topic, but I just noticed the "Moonlight" description in your sig... sounds awesome, I assume you're going to start doing those in the summer?
Any chance for sunset sets at those? LA could really use its own version of Cafe Del Mar. |
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| modthispny |
as far as markus schulz goes, his interaction is solely during the peak hour portion of his set.
at avalon when he played for 10.5 hrs, the buildup and afterhours set he was hardly interacting with the crowd except for the occasional giving somebody a thumbs up, signing something, etc.
but yea during short 2 hour peak time sets there is a lot of interaction but that kind of set calls for it anyway. |
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| alan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Quazar
alan, sorry to go off topic, but I just noticed the "Moonlight" description in your sig... sounds awesome, I assume you're going to start doing those in the summer?
Any chance for sunset sets at those? LA could really use its own version of Cafe Del Mar. |
Moonlight is more evening really. Last time we did that, it was with Moodymann.
For sunset, its usually DRENCHED that happens until 7pm so that fits that.
We also have another in the works for the summer that wil have Sunset gigs.
Actually, someone is throwing an event in Malibu faking and calling it Cafe del mar lol |
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| gypsygirl |
| clowns are scary :nervous: |
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