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Eric Prydz's Set(and L4C was right about something) (pg. 3)
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| Looney4Clooney |
| it isn't about whether it is good or not, i just don't see the point unless people can learn from it. It would be like posting a track in the production forum. Might be fantastic but without some sort of walkthru, it would be hard to to pick up things. |
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| zyklon-jay |
yeah the jazz cigarettes have made me have to write cheques with crayons. I speak with my work, you don't want to listen? My foreskin remains intact.
Rock Lobster. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| i don't have an hour to listen. I just think you would give examples for those that are interested. I mean you know your mix, i'm sure you could take 10 minutes to mention the things you feel made the mix more than just tunes. |
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| miamitranceman |
| I'll be seeing Prydz at te Identity Fest next month down here. He's the only reason I'm going. |
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| zyklon-jay |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
i don't have an hour to listen. I just think you would give examples for those that are interested. I mean you know your mix, i'm sure you could take 10 minutes to mention the things you feel made the mix more than just tunes. |
My literacy level is somewhere between retard and blind people with that hand numbing disease. The only reason i'm good at dj'ing is the flashy lights. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by zyklon-jay
I guess i would ask Eddie to chime in as he seems to have listened to them and can give a completely unbiased opinion. |
If I were going to point to a part with a clear example of what I think is under discussion, here, it would be from 52:20 to around the 57 minute marks. There, rather distinctly, can be heard three different tracks which are mixed in key and with a distinct intent, in-so-far as melodic phrasing is concerned. What's more is that this occurs throughout the course of three tracks with a second phrase, completing as it's taking over, for one that's losing prominence in the first track to feed into the last track this stretch of time pertains to.
Perhaps it could have been finessed a little more but it wasn't executed with a semantic discussion concerning harmonic mixing, in mind. They don't necessarily mesh together, perfectly, but they don't necessarily need to in order to have a desirable effect. From 1:16:25 (careful - there is clipping around that point) to the end is perhaps a more tangible, if not meaningful, example where I think Jay's done a good job fitting an acapella into the song that follows it.
At first, it seems as though he's playing two separate tracks that have nothing to do with one another - that it is just a spurious decision, on his part, to include an acapella; for the sake of playing an acapella. What he's done with a sort of fluid precision, however, is set up an algorithmic riddle. Prior to the introduction of the final song, one is left wondering, what the is he up to?. Somewhat deftly, he pulls off the reveal in such a way that I had to check the track-list to make sure that it wasn't just him flipping the record over from the acapella version to a remix with an established rhythm section.
I'm not trying to blow smoke up Jay's ass with this post. While I'm impressed with his handy-work and think it relevant to the discussion, I'm wondering if it's qualitatively finessed enough to be a "solid" example of this topic's ideal. The examples I'm citing are rough around the edges. Irrespective of the clipping issues, the acapella could have been shortened in its length while still achieving the same effect. There isn't necessarily a "lockstep" precision to it that would help to ensure its poignancy. In terms of melodic and harmonic complexity, however, I still think both cited examples surpass Clooney's "Chords-out-of-Context" metaphor by displaying a rather clear execution of an intention that is apparent, as such. |
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| Quazar |
Looking forward to seeing Prydz here on Saturday. Although he's only scheduled to play 12:30-2:30... with Arty closing (who's ing idea was THAT?).
Normally I'd think "Oh well, Prydz will just play longer and the closer will have to deal" ... but since it's Arty, I'm sure his management would get a massive stick up their asses if he doesn't get his full set. -_-
Maybe Prydz will go on early? One can hope. |
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| zyklon-jay |
I hereby elect judge eddie zilker of the people's court. Thanks for saying what i would need several dictionaries and paralegals to even attempt to state.
That being said we call on agree in citing this one as : Rock Lobster.
Thanks for giving the critique, it's always awesome seeing someone who knows how to use things like words give a little insight. Negative or positive y'all motheras still giving me hittttttts:p
In other words: I'll edit this post in the morning when i make sense. |
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| DjWoody |
I'll be seeing Prydz on Saturday at the Palladium as well. This will be my 3rd time seeing him in LA! Can't en wait.
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| jonmitz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
it would be like pulling out a chord book and playing the notes without understanding the greater point |
so you're saying it's kind of similar to saying you went to a university and graduated but you actually didn't?
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonmitz
so you're saying it's kind of similar to saying you went to a university and graduated but you actually didn't?
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Honestly, give it a rest. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonmitz
so you're saying it's kind of similar to saying you went to a university and graduated but you actually didn't?
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analogies take practice. keep at it. |
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