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Selma Filali & Eddie Zilker - Smoldering
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| EddieZilker |
Selma (known on TA as Intellekshual) sent me an mp3 with her voice on it and I asked if I could use it in a project. This is the result. Any favorable comments should be addressed to Selma. I take full responsibility for any flaws.
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| Lira |
I already told Selma, so I'm going to share this with you as well:
I like the trippy mood - sometimes it feels as if the melody changed completely when the beat starts, although I suppose it's just the same pattern that feels different with the beat (it is, right?).
It's a nice chill-out track, congrats :) |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
I like the trippy mood - sometimes it feels as if the melody changed completely when the beat starts, although I suppose it's just the same pattern that feels different with the beat (it is, right?). |
Thanks, man.
The bass-line is pretty much the same up until the second, longer break, when I added a couple of extra notes. The variation you're hearing is related to the progression of her vocals, put through time based effects, and having a sort of melodic pull that I tried to organize the rest of the instrumentation around. |
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| ziptnf |
| Selma's voice is beautiful, so you really had your work cut out for you. I really loved the structure of the track, but if I could give a criticism or two on the music, I'd say I didn't really care for the bassline. It was a little too... hmm, flat? It's just kinda there... as almost an afterthought. It didn't really impact the song in a good way imo. Also, since it was kind of a trippy song, I would have liked more fills in the beat. You kinda stuck with the downtempo DNB style beat but didn't have the same type of drum fills that are necessary to complete the beat structure. Very nice though, I enjoyed it :) |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
Selma (known on TA as Intellekshual) sent me an mp3 with her voice on it and I asked if I could use it in a project. This is the result. Any favorable comments should be addressed to Selma. I take full responsibility for any flaws. |
Left this comment on her FB. "Reminds me a bit of some old Way out West tracks". It's a nice track. It has an edge imo. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by ziptnf
Selma's voice is beautiful, so you really had your work cut out for you. I really loved the structure of the track, but if I could give a criticism or two on the music, I'd say I didn't really care for the bassline. It was a little too... hmm, flat? It's just kinda there... as almost an afterthought. It didn't really impact the song in a good way imo. Also, since it was kind of a trippy song, I would have liked more fills in the beat. You kinda stuck with the downtempo DNB style beat but didn't have the same type of drum fills that are necessary to complete the beat structure. Very nice though, I enjoyed it :) |
Thanks for the kind words and the criticism, as well. I have to say it was a real pleasure working with Selma's vocals. I honestly wasn't thinking of a particular stylistic goal (re: downtempo DnB) and more just creating as I went, around the vocal parts. Next time I do something like this, I'm hoping I can send you a copy of a WIP to get your input with. I remember you made some similar comments about "Cop-Rocked." I have a feeling I can do more with your input in an early phase of a song than I can, at this point.
| quote: | Originally posted by Storyteller
Left this comment on her FB. "Reminds me a bit of some old Way out West tracks". It's a nice track. It has an edge imo. |
Thank you, sir! |
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| Intellekshual |
:D
Thank you all so much for the kind words. I have to say Eddie made a wonder out of my vocals because I recorded the song with my camera, so it was horrendously ty quality (sound-wise), but he made it work, and I am very proud. :)
We're working on another song together, but I have acquired a decent mic since. :D |
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| Looney4Clooney |
couldn't really hear the vocals. Everything was rather blurry. It sounds like you literally just bussed everything and put 2 L2's in a row with the lowest threshold possible. There is some really bad distortion like your levels are clipping all the time. I honestly don't understand how you manage to get things sounding so bad.
Can you take screen pic of your DAW just to show the gain staging . routing and fx being used ? |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
couldn't really hear the vocals. Everything was rather blurry. It sounds like you literally just bussed everything and put 2 L2's in a row with the lowest threshold possible. There is some really bad distortion like your levels are clipping all the time. I honestly don't understand how you manage to get things sounding so bad.
Can you take screen pic of your DAW just to show the gain staging . routing and fx being used ? |
From Reason, I bounced four stems which I then "mastered" (I know you're not supposed to do this) in SONAR, using a parallel compression with Molot, and then through a chain of bus compressors with the lowest threshold being set to -6.7 - primarily to control the odd peaks. EQ was also used, primarily to high-pass the low-end. If I take a snapshot of what's happening to the gain in each succession, would that be helpful, or has my description of my kooky scheme satisfied your curiosity?
Unfortunately (?), no L2's were used. |
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| meriter |
| nice work eddie, hypnotic and beautiful acidjazz vibe you got going on here. I don't hear any distortion or anything sounds fine to me (mix is acceptable for this style of music) Great tune can't wait for the album |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
From Reason, I bounced four stems which I then "mastered" (I know you're not supposed to do this) in SONAR, using a parallel compression with Molot, and then through a chain of bus compressors with the lowest threshold being set to -6.7 - primarily to control the odd peaks. EQ was also used, primarily to high-pass the low-end. If I take a snapshot of what's happening to the gain in each succession, would that be helpful, or has my description of my kooky scheme satisfied your curiosity?
Unfortunately (?), no L2's were used. |
i am just wondering how you managed to make it so distorted and muddy. you can't really hear a single element everything is so squashed together. Like the drums, you can barely hear any transients, the bass sounds like you ran it thru a bunch of saturation plugins then squashed that. And the vocal is barely there and the natural bandwidth of the voice has been EQ's out. |
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| MSZ |
| I really like up to 3.15minutes, The bassline sounds oldschool and I like that. I wonder how selma's voice sounds dry. Not digging the mix too much, personal preference maybe. Selma send me some diddly darn vocals. |
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