Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Wait... you've never seen Digweed live?
hahahaha!
wotyzoid
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Originally posted by Guest
OH YEA?? WELL I GUESS UR OPINION IS DIFFERUNT THEN MINES.
Just the fact that you lump 'modern tech house' and 'crosstown rebels' in the same sentence shows how little you understand about the style. Stick to techno, Mark.
DJ RANN
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
With these "past it" DJs, it's always worth seeing them in a club before judging. Dave Seaman is another DJ who I would have said has totally lost the plot (and was never as good as Diggers in the first place), but I thought he was fantastic when I saw him at Passion back in March. Since I've yet to see Digweed, I can't comment on whether he still has the dancefloor pixie dust.
With that said, two things:
1. The Bedrock compilations are ing boring. If you disagree, you are also ing boring, and should probably stop talking because you're just boring everyone.
2. No matter how good Diggers may still be, he is undoubtedly past his best. As with Sasha, Seaman and the rest, his club sets may still be enjoyable and well-constructed, but the music no longer has that lose-your- energy of the glory days. It's hard to track down (with +db's account gone from Soundcloud, anyway) but it's worth finding his Essential Mix from 1998 live in Bournemouth. He absolutely hammers it out, reaching transcendentally messy energy levels without ever abandoning credible, intelligent music. That simply will not happen ever again.
Agreed. I have a lot of respect for JD but the comps he's put out in the best part of the last decade have been typical of the old accusation about prog being 'boring'.
I went to see my mate Demi play at heaven a couple of years ago and diggers was playing the main room - even at that point I thought he was past it, but he ing killed it in a subtle way. He's certainly not one to "light up the dancefloor" or jesus pose etc, but he played quality music that suited the crowd and club - a little of what you expected and a little outside the envelope.
I have that set from 98 and you're absolutely right - it's banging to say the least, but never say never. If they were able to do it once, they can do it again. I got dragged in to going to see Oakenfold in Vegas last year and had little to no expectation but he actually played pretty damn well in a reserved and complex way - Not at all what I expected (outdated cheesey trance).
Then you have to remember, there is a reason some of these guys made it in the first place and are still around today. Seamen is one of those - he was right there with Sasha in the beginning but never quite got to the same level, and again, years later his still has the ability to knock it out.
Guest
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Originally posted by wotyzoid
Just the fact that you lump 'modern tech house' and 'crosstown rebels' in the same sentence shows how little you understand about the style. Stick to techno, Mark.
LOL so if you're telling me to stick to techno, that implies that you don't think Crosstown is techno. You said its wrong for me to connect Crosstown Rebels with tech house, therefor you must not think its tech house. What exactly do you think Lazarus has been cranking out over there since the label started? Nu Disco? Progressive House? No, its ing tech house. I probably know more about the label than you do anyways.
wotyzoid
Sure :rolleyes:
SPANIARD
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Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Either no one here has actually seen him play with a 4 to 6+ hour set to mess with or he simply plays a lot differently depending on the location he is at. I make it a point to see him every time he is in NYC to play an extended set and he plays everything from progressive house, to tech house, to techno. It's never just one style of music that everyone here seems to try to make it seem.
I'll also add that if you download sets of his from even 8 years ago and beyond, he was mixing up the style and sounds just as much back then as he does today. The only thing I notice differently is that years ago, he would play some trance/progressive trance every now and then, which I'll admit I haven't heard him play in a very long time.
He's going to be back in NYC in November to play another extended set. Can't wait! :gsmile:
I totally agree with this. I was just as skeptical as most when I went to see him here in Toronto and the past two appearances were beyond phenomenal. I agree with most on the compilations/essential mixes/some transition shows being boring but he def does not have that same effect live. Just for the record, I was pretty much in the "He's past his prime" club before I went to see him play however he blew me away so hard I'm starting to think maybe he hasn't even peaked. Luckily, both shows were very well documented so I'll share some of those moments with you (although it still doesn't do it justice).
2011
2012
He closed with this, please ID.
Guest
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
With these "past it" DJs, it's always worth seeing them in a club before judging. Dave Seaman is another DJ who I would have said has totally lost the plot (and was never as good as Diggers in the first place), but I thought he was fantastic when I saw him at Passion back in March. Since I've yet to see Digweed, I can't comment on whether he still has the dancefloor pixie dust.
With that said, two things:
1. The Bedrock compilations are ing boring. If you disagree, you are also ing boring, and should probably stop talking because you're just boring everyone.
2. No matter how good Diggers may still be, he is undoubtedly past his best. As with Sasha, Seaman and the rest, his club sets may still be enjoyable and well-constructed, but the music no longer has that lose-your- energy of the glory days. It's hard to track down (with +db's account gone from Soundcloud, anyway) but it's worth finding his Essential Mix from 1998 live in Bournemouth. He absolutely hammers it out, reaching transcendentally messy energy levels without ever abandoning credible, intelligent music. That simply will not happen ever again.
Epic
SYSTEM-J
You seem to exist in some parallel dimension where there's something remotely embarrassing about that post.
Lews
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Originally posted by Guest
Epic
You and your brother never cease to amaze me with your stupidity.
Titanium
I just heard digweed's radioshow with a recent mix of transitions episode 430 Henry Saiz god that bored the hell out of me. It can cure people with insomnia that's how boring and dull and uninspiring it was.
DOOMBOT
I saw Dogwood a few weeks ago in NYC and yes, he still has the pixie dust.
Guest
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Originally posted by Lews
You and your brother never cease to amaze me with your stupidity.
Tell me more about how Avatism's music is progressive house just like Sasha & Digweed used to play back in the day, except that it is slowed down?