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Do we really suck at giving tips abroad? (pg. 2)
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| crazydafy |
| After working has a waitor for the past 8 years the Americans are the ones that ive never had a problem with. But then again it probably differs from which type of clients you get which type of environment your in. maybe the americans that go out in montreal to party are going to tip less than the ones that head out to small towns with nice restaurants. It is not only the nationality that has to be taken in consideration here but the venu which is beeing atented the age of the ppl that attend their social status etc.. it all differs per country also. So its hard pining it down unless we speak about a specific group of ppl. So the question is what kind of Quebec tourist go down to Burlington for a weekend to eat in what kind of restaurants |
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| Fran666 |
| quote: | Originally posted by crazydafy
After working has a waitor for the past 8 years the Americans are the ones that ive never had a problem with. But then again it probably differs from which type of clients you get which type of environment your in. maybe the americans that go out in montreal to party are going to tip less than the ones that head out to small towns with nice restaurants. It is not only the nationality that has to be taken in consideration here but the venu which is beeing atented the age of the ppl that attend their social status etc.. it all differs per country also. So its hard pining it down unless we speak about a specific group of ppl. So the question is what kind of Quebec tourist go down to Burlington for a weekend to eat in what kind of restaurants |
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| WittyHandle |
| That is true. At the same time, this added gratuity is not in place for the purpose of creating a stereotype of Quebecois. Its function is to deal with the reality that Vermont waitstaff have faced with the ones who go to restaurants here. Any other implications people wish to make from that are their own concern. |
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| Passskal |
| Does anyone know the difference between US wait staff min wage vs Quebec? |
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| Dykes_on_Jay |
| It would vary by state, but I knew a few waitresses in Florida, and their tips were everything. They could not live without them. Some fancy joints throw in a service charge, so I'm guessing the take home before tips is much better for those. I've seen this mostly for hotel staff, or any bar/club with a poolside, but I've also seen this at a few restaurants. They don't really tell you either sometimes, so you end up tipping on top of that which must make someone a few extra bucks. |
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| Dykes_on_Jay |
| Either way, if you are too broke to go out, don't. Ever see those people who waste tables at nice restaurants and just order the cheapest bottle of wine and 2 entrees. They eat for 3 hours, making you wait forever at the bar until you get so drunk you start making prison eyes. *cough cough Garde Manger*. It used to be such a nice place before it was over run by broke hipsters. |
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| Passskal |
It says on the Gov website that QC min wage with tips is $8.55 / hour. More than twice what Vermonters are making. I'm sure we pay more income taxes here though...But still, with such a big difference maybe it's a matter of educating QC tourists in VT.
Someone should also tell Vermonters that Quebs actually do tip based on quality of service. ty service = ty tip. |
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| crazydafy |
| quote: | | Someone should also tell Vermonters that Quebs actually do tip based on quality of service. ty service = ty tip. |
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| WittyHandle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Passskal
Someone should also tell Vermonters that Quebs actually do tip based on quality of service. ty service = ty tip. |
Not here, they don't. I'm all for tipping according to service quality, but Queebs overwhelmingly tip low when in Vermont, even in cases of standard or high quality service. |
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| WittyHandle |
I have heard a theory before that the issue was caused by misunderstanding due to differing tax rates. After a little bit of Googling, this is what I found:
Vermont:
9.0% on sales of prepared and restaurant meals
http://www.state.vt.us/tax/majorvtt...sandrooms.shtml
Quebec:
- GST (TPS in French), federal goods and services tax, which is 7% of the taxable subtotal, and
- QST (TVQ in French), Quebec sales tax, which is 7.5% of the taxable subtotal plus the GST.
In the end it works out to slightly over 15%.
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/96889
(I know, not an official source, but it's all I could find quickly and what the hell am I even doing up now anyway)
So the theory is that Quebecois tourists just look at the tax rate on the receipt and leave that, since up there it amounts to 15%. The problem is that here the meals tax is %9. Just an idea, but it seems entirely possible. |
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| Passskal |
| Very good point. I know lots of people who use the 15%ish taxes to help them calculate tip. |
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