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What's with the DJs that are so anal about technical skills? (pg. 4)
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| SYSTEM-J |
| I like Stravinsky and you like DJ Scot Project. You also don't know what the word "argument" means, so I think I win on points. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
you like 1 work by stravinsky. I could play half his repertoire by memory. I like Scot Project. I like many things. The point is that you can't say i have bad taste when my main musical influences are beyond reproach. You can't say the same. You like stravinsky, you know nothing about him. Just another wit hipster who heard stravinsky is cool and buys the vinyl. Pretty sure you couldn't even mention the type of music he made without your precious google.
and my standard of what is an argument is perhaps higher than yours. I don't consider those posts arguments.
And if you want to have a discussion about taste, do talk about actual musical structures ideas and terms instead of the rollingstone esque bull you usually say about music. Vague, irrelevant and could be applied to pretty much anything from baking a cake to ing someone in the ass. Not really interested in having a dialogue with a critic that knows nothing about music. You don't play an instrument, you can't read music, you aren't a dj, you aren't a producer, you are a sad pathetic nut that gets angry because the things you love you never really got that good at to make any money with. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
my statement was not against a point. Therefore not an argument.
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| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
ar·gu·ment
[ahr-gyuh-muhnt] Show IPA
noun
1.an oral disagreement; verbal opposition; contention; altercation: a violent argument.
2. a discussion involving differing points of view; debate: They were deeply involved in an argument about inflation.
3. a process of reasoning; series of reasons: I couldn't follow his argument.
4. a statement, reason, or fact for or against a point: This is a strong argument in favor of her theory.
5. an address or composition intended to convince or persuade; persuasive discourse
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/argument?s=t
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Apparently they don't have degrees in reading comprehension at Juilli....oh wait |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| You don't appear to know what taste means, either. Oh, and you've been mega-editing your posts again. Angry, angry Ritchie. |
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| Dykes_on_Jay |
| I brought wine and Barry Manilow. Let's get sexy. |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
you like 1 work by stravinsky. I could play half his repertoire by memory. I like Scot Project. I like many things. The point is that you can't say i have bad taste when my main musical influences are beyond reproach. You can't say the same. You like stravinsky, you know nothing about him. Just another wit hipster who heard stravinsky is cool and buys the vinyl. Pretty sure you couldn't even mention the type of music he made without your precious google.
and my standard of what is an argument is perhaps higher than yours. I don't consider those posts arguments.
And if you want to have a discussion about taste, do talk about actual musical structures ideas and terms instead of the rollingstone esque bull you usually say about music. Vague, irrelevant and could be applied to pretty much anything from baking a cake to ing someone in the ass. Not really interested in having a dialogue with a critic that knows nothing about music. You don't play an instrument, you can't read music, you aren't a dj, you aren't a producer, you are a sad pathetic nut that gets angry because the things you love you never really got that good at to make any money with. |
Mahler is overrated. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You don't appear to know what taste means, either. Oh, and you've been mega-editing your posts again. Angry, angry Ritchie. |
i do.
you seem to think yours is impeccable. You also seem be rather derisive toward other people's view which would be fine if you could supplement your superlatives with actual content. You can't. That is what annoys me. I like scot project for what he did 2000 - 2005. I've explained what I like about his music. You seem to think his music is rather bad but you lack the very basic tools to A) judge music B) explain what prompted your judgement. There is a universal saying that you cannot begin to judge until you understand what it is you are judging. You can't even begin to describe production related aspects which is why you don't visit the production forum anymore. Your sophist bull is quickly exposed for the nonsense it is and you found yourself without a leg to stand on. And you haven't been back since. Not that I wouldn't welcome you if you dropped your wannabe edgy journalist bull. This is why it is so ing annoying to hear you about with your opinions regarding other people's taste.
You find any reason to side track a thread into what it is now. Why don't you just put me on ignore. You've claimed i'm an idiot. What do you get out of reading what I say. And it is always soon followed by the parasites that vacate your taint with more bull that adds nothing but noise. |
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| enydo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
You seem to think his music is rather bad but you lack the very basic tools to A) judge music B) explain what prompted your judgement. |
http://iamnotamusicjournalist.blogspot.com/ |
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| BshidoHEAT |
I think that it's because there are so many digital djs nowadays that use the sync button and nothing else, that people are kind of obsessing about people who use actual beat matching and cueing.
Personally, I'm a digital dj but I started a few years before the boom, so I pretty much learned how to mix without a sync button and it's so refreshing to see people use vinyl. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| i think skill needs to be defined. The Op felt that using fx was a determinant of skill. Being a dj comprises many things including the task of librarian. That is a skill that takes time to mature. Reading a crowd is also something that takes time. Everyone says they can but ask them what they look for and way too many have no idea. I think beatmatching is so rudimentary like learning to play a scale on an instrument. It is something you learn at the beginning. It is kinda silly to talk about it other than a very basic skill you learn the first 3 months of playing. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
my point. he doesn't ever talk about the music other than how someone that has no understanding of the music would talk about it. It is vague, meaningless and of no musical value. Not to take away from the historical and social components of the articles which I think he is rather good at.
i don't think system j would argue that. they are worthwhile for the reasons mentioned but absolute hack journalism in terms of concrete musical references that could support say " this music is derivative with the same sounds as the last album " That means nothing. Explain which sound, describe the sound and the process used and how that process was used again. That is how you analyze music. And you can't judge music without doing the analysis which requires an understanding he doesn't have.
And i'm not approaching this as something one should be able to do. But when you criticize others as system j does in the manner he does, perhaps you should substantiate your bull. otherwise everything he says is just a flowery poetic way to sat " you suck" . Which is what it is and It gets old. It side tracks threads, it never leads anywhere good and perhaps he would stop his ing trolling and grow the up. |
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| Evolve140 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Pluviose
some DJs have been critical of me because I dont mess around with much effects, and I don't use much super advanced techniques when it comes to mixing, fading, and transitioning
I'm mostly into just smooth transitions and getting a bomb ass tracklist but I've been criticized for being a bad DJ because of that.
so is it really a big deal? in the end most people (the masses) dont really pay attention and just want good content right? |
Wow, what a bunch of blowhards. Many well known and respected DJs don't even use effects from the mixer in their tracks. If you have a well selected track list and good programming, the rest takes care of itself. Tell them to rightoff. They sound like the new wave of DJs on the bandwagon who think that everything has to be totally over the top or it's not cool or worthy of their praise. |
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