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Ishkurs Guide
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| HOUSE ISLAND |
| Does anyone know if the guy who wrote the Ishkurs Guide has a username on Trance Addict? Looking for him. |
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| Sushipunk |
Yeah, his name here is Ishkur :p
He doesn't post much any more, but he pops in now and then. |
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| Zharen |
He wrote that guide like what, a little over a decade now? And people still asking about that guy? Crazy.
I'm pretty sure he popped in MD at some point last year. Bright and cheery as ever. |
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| Lira |
He posted something here last month, if I recall correctly.
Top bloke, by far one of the coolest people I've never met. |
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| djshire |
He's on here, and he's working on the next version of his guide.
@Zharen: That guide is still a very useful learning tool, despite being quite outdated. |
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| Lews |
| Yeah, he posts from time to time. I still think the next version of the guide is a myth, personally. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Yeah, he posts from time to time. I still think the next version of the guide is a myth, personally. |
Having tried to make a guide myself back in the day, I can tell that's a lot of work. I don't think it's a myth, but given how much access to information we have nowadays, this has probably become a really overwhelming task - but I wouldn't be surprised if he managed to pull it off. |
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| Vector A |
| He has quite a task ahead of him. Once in a while I still look in MD and there are people discussing all kinds of crazy genres I've never heard of. |
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| Jake Benson |
Am I going to the wrong place or is Ishkur's guide stuck in the year 2001?
Btw Ishkur flamed me on here once when I predicted that dance music was swallowing hip-hop after listening to "The Way I Are" by Timbaland. He insisted that "hip-hop" can take anything it wants and still be hip-hop. He was wrong. I was right. Dance ate hip-hop almost thanks solely to David Guetta. |
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| Sykonee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jake Benson
Am I going to the wrong place or is Ishkur's guide stuck in the year 2001?
Btw Ishkur flamed me on here once when I predicted that dance music was swallowing hip-hop after listening to "The Way I Are" by Timbaland. He insisted that "hip-hop" can take anything it wants and still be hip-hop. He was wrong. I was right. Dance ate hip-hop almost thanks solely to David Guetta. |
Do you mean this version?
And dance music didn't eat hip-hop. It only supplanted it in the mainstream machine. |
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| Jake Benson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sykonee
Do you mean this version?
And dance music didn't eat hip-hop. It only supplanted it in the mainstream machine. |
Yes that version.
And semantics, but you are technically correct. Your wording is better. Although the way Ishkur was arguing...he was saying hip-hop can and will eat up dance. But if you follow U.S. pop music from 2006-2013 the opposite seemed to happen. People were rapping to faster tracks that sounded more EDM and now you have rappers rapping over 4/4 floor beats. In the sense that dance producers collaborate (or pay) rappers like Nicki Minaj, Lil Wayne, Busta Rhymes, etc to rap over hyped up dance music would lean more towards my "dance eats hip-hop" than Ishkurs "hip-hop eats dance" statement...at least in the "pop world." Again this is a total "semantics" "gray-area" "subjective" debate, but in my view top 40 rappers sold out to dance music because it's "hot" now in the U.S. In other words, hip-hop sold out to, or got eaten by, dance. Nothing wrong with that in and of itself. It just....happened.
Obviously outside of top 40 land both dance and hip-hop are vibrant genres whether separate or together.
Also, I'm still waiting for U.S. Top 40 hip-hop to make a come back with either
(1) chunky beats from the early 90s that sampled from earlier hip-hop beats in the 80s
(2) dub step (please god i hope not)
(3) drum n bass (this might be good or bad) |
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| Jake Benson |
| HAHHAHAHA there's a part in Ishkur's guide where he says "Rap music was invented by Blondie." love it! |
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