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Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Prevent Atheists From Graduating
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| de+ |
Maddening.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friend...te-high-school/
A group of Arizona politicians — all Republicans, of course — have proposed a law (House Bill 2467) requiring public high school students to recite the following oath in order to graduate:
I, _______, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge these duties; so help me God
As written, the bill does not exempt atheist students or those of different faiths from the requirement, though Thorpe has pledged to amend the measure. "...I do not want to create a requirement that students or parents may feel uncomfortable with.” |
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| Lagrangian |
| SHORT EURO, LOONIE, AUSSIE, STERLING! LONG KING DOLLAR! |
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| Vivid Boy |
| we didnt do this to you. God did |
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| arem |
| God is a western term for a phenomenon thats been shared worldwide and in all major faith systems on every continent. Its a word that evolved for a reason, and one was so we dont have to introduce to children in gigantic paragraphs the notion of unity. Theyre just simplifying and oversimplifying without considering the positive feelings of atheist. |
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| FuzzQi |
| Atheists can't say the word "god" |
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| Lilith |
| Oh the US is so upside down crazy, we have laws here preventing retards from graduating. |
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| Joz |
| quote: | Originally posted by de+
Maddening. |
Your thread title is wrong. The bill proposes requiring people to say something that an atheist might object to saying. But it doesn't actually prevent atheists from graduating.
I'm not saying the bill isn't objectionable, but you haven't accurately represented what it is.
| quote: | | Thorpe has pledged to amend the measure. |
If the bolded part of your quote was removed, would you still object? |
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| Redd |
| not sure I would have objected just because I don't believe in god, but turn it around and see how many Americans would object to saying the same just replacing god with Odin, or allah. |
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| de+ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joz
Your thread title is wrong. The bill proposes requiring people to say something that an atheist might object to saying. But it doesn't actually prevent atheists from graduating.
I'm not saying the bill isn't objectionable, but you haven't accurately represented what it is.
If the bolded part of your quote was removed, would you still object? |
I copied the thread title from the article. I submit the thread title is an accurate description of the bill in question. As the bill is currently worded, an atheist has to say the words "So help me God" to graduate. Hence: Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Prevent Atheists From Graduating.
If the "so help me God" portion were removed (which to date it has not been), then yes, problem solved. |
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| de+ |
| quote: | Originally posted by FuzzQi
Atheists can't say the word "god" |
Huh? Feel free to attempt to clarify or justify your statement to mean something reasonable. As it stands, it looks like it's just a blatantly false statement. If you're trying to point towards an argument with it, I suspect that it's failed, utterly, already. |
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