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So, when will TA finally bite the dust? (pg. 5)
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| FuzzQi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bierheld
Depends on were you want to go. If the traditional forum is still the way to go there are a lot of very common features that have been overlooked for this site.
The main things:
-Quickposting - The abilty to leave a comment without leaving the thread and having to reload the entire page by having a comment box at the bottom of the page.
-Posts as separate dynamic objects, which can be refreshed without reloading the page. In other words an auto update function making it easier to follow a thread.
-Non intrusive pop-up notifications that can pop up at any time while browsing the site, both for quotes and PM's.
-A simple way to track topics you've posted in or follow topics you're interested in. Like a custom home page sort of thing. Although I guess this community isn't really big enough to really make this a necessity.
-Better Youtube integration, there are ways to embed the videos without it resulting in massive bandwidth killing threads that have you loading tons of youtube players you're never going to listen to. A simple clickable thumbnail and title that loads a pop-out youtube player would do the trick.
If you really want to win back the facebook crowd though you're going to have to go further then that. The possibilities are endless, look at the way these new social media are integrated with each other and how easy it is to find content there. Imagine if every user here has a profile that shows what music they listen to, what events they attend, what reviews they posted. Imagine seeing someone randomly reference an artist and being able to find out who that artist is, what his music sounds like and were he's playing all within a few clicks. It's all possible, but it requires a radical departure from what this site is and I wonder if anyone that's here now really wants all that. |
That pretty much describes what moot did with 4chan. It's been pretty successful. |
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| Blake |
| As many of us here will eventually be considered members of The Elders of EDM, TA will eventually become a relic of sorts. |
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| Turbonium |
| If this website ever dies, I will die a little inside along with it. |
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| MSZ |
| Swamper my man, you gotta set up some whorecam on this bitch. People will pay good money to see some scat fetishes and guess what, you'll get a steaming cut from all the tips. Just think 30k. |
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| tubularbills |
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
Yup.
A large part of TA's success was that in the early days (2000-2005+) you had to really be into EDM to sign up/participate in the forums. Music (dj mixes/sets) were hard to come by, IDs were difficult to get, and watching video (of events) or music videos was a chore in codecs until sites started using Flash. Yeah, for years the search terms "trance download", "trance music" and "trance music videos" brought in a ton of traffic because I was in the top 2 for those. Before I had TA I registered UnknownTracks.com because I wanted a forum just based around IDing music... but then I quickly changed my mind. I registered edmaddict.com in 2003 thinking of changing the name of the site one day because while Trance is my preference I was also always into Techno/House as well. It always bothered me that TA didn't have more of a generic name to encompass the other genres but after I got this place up and running I didn't see an easy way to switch to something else.... and besides, I figured, Trance is the entry point into EDM for most people and it seems to also be what gets peeps most passionate (and thus willing to write reviews/post pictures/etc.)
I struggled for a long time with MP3 legalities and other headaches in those first 5 years... it was difficult at first to keep the place running (I had to learn linux/php/apache/etc.) and to cover costs but once I figured out how to navigate the bull it was painless. Napster, Myplay.com, Audiogalaxy, FreeDiskSpace.com and the dedication of most of the moderators played a big role in keeping this place afloat. Also, the event listings have been a big thing that keeps people coming back - the Toronto Event listings started in 2004 and it took years before I added the other areas (regret that).
2006 was the peak year for TA forums - in terms of posts - it was also when I had offers coming in to buy the place -- in hindsight I should have probably sold but I couldn't predict what was coming. When facebook became popular (in 2007) that's when posts started to drop as a whole. The UK and Dutch areas of TA used to be the busiest but around this time they died out and California/New York/Toronto became the popular regional areas.
What do we have today? Well ,the (vast) majority of new generation North American EDM fans (the neon kids/"YOLO"s/Mollyheads) are too busy with Facebook/Twitter/Instagram/etc. to care about forums much less write a lengthy review of their night out! (I take some of the blame in this as TA doesn't have a mobile version). They also come into the scene at a great time (in terms of availability/exposure) - tons of music festivals -- easy access to artist interaction (fb/twitter) -- and tons of digital media to go with it (youtube/soundcloud/mixcloud/beatport). No longer is it a chore to seek out EDM (well, it still is for 'good' EDM) but this stuff is being pushed out and marketed all over the place.
I look at other forums that have come up over the past few years and they're all barely off the ground (unless someone knows one I haven't found yet). If I type EDM forum into google TA comes up first.
What would you like to see that isn't here? |
great post! 2006 was a pretty awesome year for TA.
Funny, calling tranceaddict "TA" just sounds better than calling edmaddict "EA". just doesn't sound right.
there are definitely pros and cons to both scenarios: forums vs facebook/twitter/etc. me personally, I would have preferred it the way it used to be where facebook was more of a college thing only and the forums were for everyone. but that's just my two cents. |
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| EarnYourKeep |
| we just want TA2.0 already geez swamper |
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| djshire |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bierheld
Depends on were you want to go. If the traditional forum is still the way to go there are a lot of very common features that have been overlooked for this site.
The main things:
-Quickposting - The abilty to leave a comment without leaving the thread and having to reload the entire page by having a comment box at the bottom of the page.
-Posts as separate dynamic objects, which can be refreshed without reloading the page. In other words an auto update function making it easier to follow a thread.
-Non intrusive pop-up notifications that can pop up at any time while browsing the site, both for quotes and PM's.
-A simple way to track topics you've posted in or follow topics you're interested in. Like a custom home page sort of thing. Although I guess this community isn't really big enough to really make this a necessity.
-Better Youtube integration, there are ways to embed the videos without it resulting in massive bandwidth killing threads that have you loading tons of youtube players you're never going to listen to. A simple clickable thumbnail and title that loads a pop-out youtube player would do the trick.
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So in other words, a vBulletin upgrade, like say, the version that Gearslutz uses. |
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| Juan Paulino |
| quote: | Originally posted by djshire
So in other words, a vBulletin upgrade, like say, the version that Gearslutz uses. |
Yeah that would be cool but right now this place looks like a target for narcs. |
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| Jon_Snow |
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
Yup.
A large part of TA's success was that in the early days (2000-2005+) you had to really be into EDM to sign up/participate in the forums. Music (dj mixes/sets) were hard to come by, IDs were difficult to get, and watching video (of events) or music videos was a chore in codecs until sites started using Flash. Yeah, for years the search terms "trance download", "trance music" and "trance music videos" brought in a ton of traffic because I was in the top 2 for those. Before I had TA I registered UnknownTracks.com because I wanted a forum just based around IDing music... but then I quickly changed my mind. I registered edmaddict.com in 2003 thinking of changing the name of the site one day because while Trance is my preference I was also always into Techno/House as well. It always bothered me that TA didn't have more of a generic name to encompass the other genres but after I got this place up and running I didn't see an easy way to switch to something else.... and besides, I figured, Trance is the entry point into EDM for most people and it seems to also be what gets peeps most passionate (and thus willing to write reviews/post pictures/etc.)
I struggled for a long time with MP3 legalities and other headaches in those first 5 years... it was difficult at first to keep the place running (I had to learn linux/php/apache/etc.) and to cover costs but once I figured out how to navigate the bull it was painless. Napster, Myplay.com, Audiogalaxy, FreeDiskSpace.com and the dedication of most of the moderators played a big role in keeping this place afloat. Also, the event listings have been a big thing that keeps people coming back - the Toronto Event listings started in 2004 and it took years before I added the other areas (regret that).
2006 was the peak year for TA forums - in terms of posts - it was also when I had offers coming in to buy the place -- in hindsight I should have probably sold but I couldn't predict what was coming. When facebook became popular (in 2007) that's when posts started to drop as a whole. The UK and Dutch areas of TA used to be the busiest but around this time they died out and California/New York/Toronto became the popular regional areas.
What do we have today? Well ,the (vast) majority of new generation North American EDM fans (the neon kids/"YOLO"s/Mollyheads) are too busy with Facebook/Twitter/Instagram/etc. to care about forums much less write a lengthy review of their night out! (I take some of the blame in this as TA doesn't have a mobile version). They also come into the scene at a great time (in terms of availability/exposure) - tons of music festivals -- easy access to artist interaction (fb/twitter) -- and tons of digital media to go with it (youtube/soundcloud/mixcloud/beatport). No longer is it a chore to seek out EDM (well, it still is for 'good' EDM) but this stuff is being pushed out and marketed all over the place.
I look at other forums that have come up over the past few years and they're all barely off the ground (unless someone knows one I haven't found yet). If I type EDM forum into google TA comes up first.
What would you like to see that isn't here? |
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| djshire |
| quote: | Originally posted by Juan Paulino
Yeah that would be cool but right now this place looks like a target for narcs. |
What do you mean? |
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| Juan Paulino |
| quote: | Originally posted by djshire
What do you mean? |
The interface GUI is all dark and mysterious looking, a bit secretive. |
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| Swamper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Juan Paulino
The interface GUI is all dark and mysterious looking, a bit secretive. |
Mysterious? Secretive? The dark background made sense because I found it was easier on the eyes late at night *and* all the sites at the time had light coloured backgrounds and I thought it was boring. I've heard lots of people complain about it over the years but never heard your description... lol :) |
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