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| Vivid Boy |
I wouldn't. Being laid off doesn't always mean you were at your job and they got rid of you. sometimes it just means business is slow and you're position was more of a luxury then a necessity.
Why be so butt hurt?
I once got fired for making fun of my bosses purple velvet shoes in front of the whole company. He waited 2 weeks to do it so it wouldn't seem like he couldn't take a joke, but i more than pulled my weight at that company. I knew what was what. It got a ton of laughs though and people still bring it up if I see them. That boss was soooo butthurt. He was a 55 yr old 12 yr old though. he once called me to take the company truck to the highway he was stuck at to help him change his flat tire. Begged me not to tell anyone. everybody knew by lunch about what a man child he was. lol |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| If it's a redundancy and you can still get a reference; don't. If you've been fired, there's no chance of a reference and the whole thing is a write-off, why not fire all your guns at once and explode into space? |
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| Serial Killer |
i didn't give a about burning bridges with this specific company.. they acted like scumbags, but covered their asses...so i couldn't care less. it definitely left a mark on the former boss as other people knew facts about her...
plus i do stand up for myself and it has nothing to do with being butt hurt |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by EarnYourKeep
There's a difference in burning a bridge and defending yourself. |
Actually, there isn't. If I have made the decision to terminate someone and my superiors have signed off on it nothing the person being exited says is going to be given any thought beyond "wow, let's mark this one off as ineligible for rehire." |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Serial Killer
i didn't give a about burning bridges with this specific company.. they acted like scumbags, but covered their asses...so i couldn't care less. it definitely left a mark on the former boss as other people knew facts about her...
plus i do stand up for myself and it has nothing to do with being butt hurt |
Here's the problem with that. People don't always just work at one company their whole career, they move, they have colleagues at other companies, they talk. You may not care about burning a bridge at that specific company but how about at 1/2 the local market for whatever industry it is you work in? I have friends and colleagues throughout my industry. Every time I have a candidate who worked at a company one of my friends or colleagues worked at I call them to find out what I can about the candidate; similarly, I get calls from people all the time about people that used to work with me. I can think of one individual that I've received at least six calls about in the past year and a bit since I fired her (and I know she isn't using me as a reference). You get way more information this way than through reference checks (I can recall a candidate with glowing references whom I was advised by multiple sources was unreliable due to a serious substance abuse problem). You may think you are only burning a bridge with one person or company but it is rarely that simple. |
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| EarnYourKeep |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Actually, there isn't. If I have made the decision to terminate someone and my superiors have signed off on it nothing the person being exited says is going to be given any thought beyond "wow, let's mark this one off as ineligible for rehire." |
When a manager/boss say violates a Code of Business Ethic, say they want to fudge the number for the month because it affects EBITDA, and cascades the blame down to an analyst and the analyst has proof he was instructed to do so and stands to defend themselves with that proof, regardless of what upper management may say there is factual evidence that removing this person from their position still makes the company susceptible to fraud and auditing or SarbOx
The use case is infinite in this example regardless of the top-down power delegation. |
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| Serial Killer |
cases such as substance abuse and similar things, i understand.
but when they lay you off 2 days before you go on medical leave for a month, and tell you that "budgeting" is the issue is different.
and yes, i consulted an attorney who said they have the right to lay you off for any reason. (budgeting, restructure, etc...), and no i could not sue |
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| Dykes_on_Jay |
| You do realize that it could have been for budgetary issues right? Good businesses are not run with bleeding hearts. |
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| Serial Killer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
Good businesses are not run with bleeding hearts. |
not always true. the company i currently work for is much compassionate and successful at the same time. when i was employed here for only a few months, i had to take a medical leave.. not only they gave me the time off(even though it was at my cost), they also held the position for me when i came back. they didn't have to do, but they did.. |
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| Dykes_on_Jay |
| I commend them. That being said, it isn't the reality for every company. |
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| Serial Killer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
I commend them. That being said, it isn't the reality for every company. |
i am very appreciative of the way the company acted in time of need when i needed that month off. if it was my company i would've done the same and if company's financial ability allowed the company to pay the employee, I'd do it in a heartbeat.. |
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| Psyshell |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
You do realize that it could have been for budgetary issues right? Good businesses are not run with bleeding hearts. |
It's very unlikely they didn't realise the hole in their budget until that time though. If they were honest they probably would've said that they would fire someone if they went on medical leave (even indirectly). Not saying it works that way in practice but I'd hardly suggest they were doing an entirely reasonable and honest thing. |
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