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why wasn't ron paul elected? (pg. 8)
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by rubez
a guy called whitey harrell was found not guilty for not paying his taxes, because the jury couldn't find the law - and the judge failed to provide them with it upon request. |
hahahaha. you don't know the difference between state and federal. not that im surprised of course. dumbass. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by rubez
amendment. law.
two different things. |
wow :stongue: |
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| rubez |
when was anyone ever thrown in jail for breaking an amendment? retard.
ron paul can't cite a law that allows for taxes to be explicitly taken, seems like you do. tell me it, i'll pass it on to ron... it seems to have passed him by in his 40 years of politics. |
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| rubez |
oh yeah, 40 years of experience, and it's on ing wikipedia. silly ron.
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| Vector A |
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
So, yeah, it does look like the 16th Amendment allows taxes to be both instituted ("lay") and taken ("collect").
Now you're correct that the 16th Amendment does not in itself mandate an individual to pay any specific tax. Rather, it authorizes Congress to pass income tax laws: and those *are* what require individuals to pay taxes. These laws are called the US Tax Code, and they tell American citizens what we owe depending on our income and the characteristics of our household, e.g.:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/1
So when your ideological fellow travelers get their asses thrown in the pokey for tax evasion, it is for failing to comply with the Tax Code, and not "breaking" the 16th Amendment. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by rubez
:rolleyes: |
Oh no, watch out - it's the smiley that automatically renders any argument moot. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| Rubez, you still haven't provided a direct quote from Ron Paul to show he denies the existence of this law. I'd really like to see what he actually has to say on this subject. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| Rubez rhymes with noobs. Probably not a coincidence. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by rubez
oh yeah, 40 years of experience, and it's on ing wikipedia. silly ron.
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hahahahaha. and you wondered why I wouldn't answer your question to begin with. a real commitment to intellectual endeavour you've got there! :stongue::stongue:
| quote: | Originally posted by rubez
all i said was there is no law allowing the US to collect income tax. which there isn't, unless you can show us?
for every other jailable crime, they can cite a law that you have broken. where is this one? |
| quote: | Originally posted by rubez
if you can't point to the law, then shut up. that's the ONLY thing in question here. |
| quote: | Originally posted by rubez
i said there was no law to allow the US to collect income tax, which is true. |
| quote: | Originally posted by rubez
anytime anyone has asked to see the law (when being tried) they haven't been able to produce it. surely it should be your right to see it. |
golly that must be embarrassing for you.
oh look, here's your messiah's opinion on what income tax should be! sure sounds like he knows about tax changes in accord with the ing 1913 act!
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Well, we should have the lowest tax that we've ever had, and up until 1913 it was 0% |
so dumb :haha: |
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| rubez |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Rubez, you still haven't provided a direct quote from Ron Paul to show he denies the existence of this law. I'd really like to see what he actually has to say on this subject. |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE8RtL3azDg
1:04:20 i think. paul appears at 1:07 again and maybe more throughout. don't have sound to confirm what he's talking about at the moment. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by rubez
ron paul did |
:stongue::stongue::stongue::stongue::stongue: |
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