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re: Montreal testing extended 6am last call.
The liquor board here pulled the plug on that the day it was supposed to go into effect. Never happened. |
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| CMR |
| quote: | Originally posted by kotsy
And our 2AM last call is one of the biggest jokes in our "world class city". No other world class city has a 2AM last call. |
Los Angeles, San Francisco, Vancouver, Boston, Atlanta, Dublin (2:30), Houston, Philadelphia. Most of Canada and the US, really. Plus a few other countries. Just saying... |
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| gimmebeatz |
| quote: | Originally posted by ItalianPoiSon
lol at the line up for TWP |
biggest joke and flop for such huge potential |
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| kotsy |
| quote: | Originally posted by CMR
Los Angeles, San Francisco, Vancouver, Boston, Atlanta, Dublin (2:30), Houston, Philadelphia. Most of Canada and the US, really. Plus a few other countries. Just saying... |
That's really unfortunate but I think with Toronto being the 3rd biggest city in North America it should set the standard with a decent last call time, or abolish it all together. People come from overseas and are stunned to learn that we even have a last call. They can't understand it.
| quote: | Originally posted by gimmebeatz
biggest joke and flop for such huge potential |
If you're going to do with with locals, it's not that bad of a lineup. What's criminal is that it's $42 with service charge right now and that's not even the highest tier. I would never spend that to see locals. That's part of the reason I stopped doing boat cruises. |
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| smuncky |
| quote: | Originally posted by kotsy
That's really unfortunate but I think with Toronto being the 3rd biggest city in North America ... |
4th.
Mexico City, New York and Los Angeles are above us. |
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| planetaryplayer |
| I would have felt robbed if I purchased a ticket to that lol |
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| kotsy |
| A thousand apologies, Alex |
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| Dior Homme |
| quote: | Originally posted by kotsy
That's part of the reason I stopped doing boat cruises. |
Boat cruises have always hovered around $40. What do you expect to pay? There is also more risk involved with running a party on a boat. |
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| smuncky |
| quote: | Originally posted by kotsy
A thousand apologies, Alex |
I'll imagine it this way.
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| kotsy |
For anyone that somehow missed the lineup announced on fb today.
| quote: | Originally posted by Dior Homme
Boat cruises have always hovered around $40. What do you expect to pay? There is also more risk involved with running a party on a boat. |
If it's locals I wouldn't spend more than than $25 - no matter what kind of venue it is. I know these parties cost a lot to throw but it's just not worth it for me.
$40 is fine if there is a good headliner and that used to happen often 5-6 years ago but now we're looking at $60 for a good headliner on a boat. I just can't justify spending that much money on cover for a party, given how long boat cruises last.
| quote: | Originally posted by smuncky
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haha! I remember the audio being "your forgive-a-ness, please-ah" |
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| loopdokter |
Honestly I don't blame them for keeping it locals only for the first one.
If they end up losing money - which I doubt will happen - then not having an out of town headliner minimizes the loss. Right now the promoters are just trying to prove there's a demand for this sort of thing - which clearly there is.
As for last call, I do agree it should basically be abolished. The problem is that the drinking laws in Ontario are heavily based upon Puritanism and that legacy continues. No politician wants to come across as being 'soft' on drinking - especially when the anti-drunk driving lobby like MADD is so powerful in provincial politics.
MADD would have most people believe that extending the drinking cutoff time would cause people to drink more, but the inverse seems to be true from what I've seen in cities where they have extended drinking hours or none at all. People stop drinking when they're tired and slowly trickle out of the venue instead of all at once. Seeing as alcohol is a depressant, it makes you sleepy in high volume, so if you're completely wasted you're less likely to continue to imbibe as the night goes on. With a designated cut off time, it forces people to rush the bar (as we've all seen) and buy as many drinks as possible in a short amount of time - only further increasing their intoxication and the likelihood for making bad decisions. Not only that, but you're basically creating a nightmare for law enforcement because it pushes out a bunch of unruly drunk people into the street at 3 AM that extend the resources of emergency services... Not good! Lastly, you create an unregulated booze can culture that the government doesn't see taxes from - also not good.
It will eventually happen. Ontario is already in the process of revising our drinking laws, but it's happening slowly and will take decades. We can now drink openly at festivals instead of a cornered off area. Things like this don't move quickly. Maybe our kids will see no last call by the time they're old enough to drink, but I doubt I'll see it happening as an active punter.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...er-prohibition/ |
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| loopdokter |
| quote: | Originally posted by kotsy
There's no way there's a bylaw preventing clubs staying open past 5AM. Guv was open till 7 or later and Zone is open till 11am consistently while Ryze stayed open till 3PM last Canada Day weekend and 8PM on New Year's Day. They've even had quite a few parties that have lasted till 6AM. Even Vola used to do parties till 7AM with Mark Oliver when it first opened.
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While I'm not aware of a Toronto bylaw that forces clubs to close at 5 AM, I'm pretty sure most clubs in Toronto do it because they can't be bothered to deal with the fall out and harassment from Toronto police. I remember CoZo being open at 6 AM, but as far as I'm aware now they don't open until 11 AM (correct me if I'm wrong?). It's just not worth the risk of having your establishment constantly full of disgruntled cops because as soon as you have extended hours, you're suddenly a 'drug den'. |
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