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the legacy of Rank 1 - Airwave (Original Mix) (pg. 3)
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| SYSTEM-J |
| Matt, you'd take Pauly D's opinion if it agreed with your own. I've never met anyone so desperate to legitimise their taste. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| It's very much an "anthem" tune, with a hint of cheesiness. As such, it's very much a trancecracker tune - not something I'd prefer to listen to nowadays if I'm listening to trance. Maybe poppin' some Molly with it might do the trick. Maybe not. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
It's very much an "anthem" tune, with a hint of cheesiness. As such, it's very much a trancecracker tune - not something I'd prefer to listen to nowadays if I'm listening to trance. Maybe poppin' some Molly with it might do the trick. Maybe not. |
I think the main "fault" the track had is that it laid the foundation for that big-ing-room--off-plur-anthem formula for others to follow, not that it was that bad in itself.
Though it wasn't that good either. |
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| Innocence Lost |
| NO pun but i seen rank 1 live, the 5 min breakdown just made everyone leave. The tune still rocks tho. |
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| 2techs |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Matt, you'd take Pauly D's opinion if it agreed with your own. I've never met anyone so desperate to legitimise their taste. |
it's just that everyone in this thread has such an advanced taste in music that Airwave no longer holds any uniqueness to them. when it comes to elitism, I've been there done that. yall have too much pride. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| Advanced taste in music? Generally, tracks that I don't like now are tracks that I never liked to begin with. There may be an acquired taste in music, but I don't know anything about "advanced." There's nothing wrong or repulsive about liking the Airwave track. If it holds a special place for you, whether out of nostalgia or not, it's fine by me. |
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| AlphaStarred |
Stop being so hard on yourself and start standing up for your own opinions. I don't understand - do you have some sort of masochistic urge when it comes to SYSTEM-J slamming you, or are you simply conceding that he's always right when he does so?
Maybe you're right - on a huge sound system, it might sound more interesting, but then again, if you're not too fond of the track (and the anthem style) to begin with, then I don't see how it can make such a big difference. |
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| 2techs |
| you're just like him. you hide behind a sea of eloquent words to get away with anything you want in a discussion. it's annoying. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| uhh...hiding because I told you to stand up for yourself, unless you always end up agreeing with him and not trusting your own opinion? I'd tell you straight up if I saw you, it's not like I was being offensive lol. |
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| Innocence Lost |
| Matt 4 real tho, keep your head up and when jack has to say something about you, don't be afraid to say what s on your mind, its just TA. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Because it's utterly . |
This...
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Also, calling this track "one of the most infamous in dance music" is ridiculous. If you walk up to 99% of clubbers on dancefloors around the world and ask them this question, they won't have even heard of Rank 1 - Airwave. |
.....and this.
If you want to talk "infamous" (idk what that even means in this context) then I'd probably go with System-F out of the blue.
From another thread:
| quote: | For me, 1999 was the year it all went horribly wrong for trance. I can nearly pinpoint it to a particular record: System F - out of the blue
I remember hearing for the first time in a (very good) club in late 1998 and thinking, "oh that breakdown is just too over the top and that's just to much fromage for one piece of vinyl". Well produced, no doubt, but just too big for it's own sake.
Suddenly, track after track came out in the same vein, some better than others in fairness, but a model had been established which set the formula for a particular type of trance that although popular and well produced in many cases, was so formulaic and instantly disposable.
It;s not fair to say it's all the fault of Ferry or that track as there were many things leading up to it and that new generation of ravers were just discovering dance music (and so was the new media) as a mainstream phenomenon, but that was certainly the poster boy track for that new and crap wave. I remember going to clubs and hearing the same few tracks, from the same few labels - diversity hugely suffered as the scene got commercialized and big sponsors started to want to get involved in reaching the target demographic of young people with disposable income and little responsibilities. It also attracted a different crowd, that pushed a lot of the serious clubbers to other less mainstream/underground events or to hate the scene in total.
I probably knew about 30 people who moved on from the scene that year, that were way too young to do so but hated what it became. A classic example of this was creamfields (the first one in 98). Probably the best night of my life. Then next year, big money got involved, sponsors wanted more of the cake and it resulted in creamfields not happening, but two competing and rather events taking place. That was the beginnning of the end of trance in the UK at least, and look at it now.... |
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| Trance-M |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
This...
.....and this.
If you want to talk "infamous" (idk what that even means in this context) then I'd probably go with System-F out of the blue.
From another thread: |
I think those are worthless answers from you and Jack.
I have said it before, strange how things said over here are totally the opposite of how I remember it.
Regarding your quote, those people probably weren't real trance fans in the first place. I think I'm allowed to say that. |
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