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Can we talk Dru m Machines / Grooveboxes / All in one sequencer boxes? (pg. 3)
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DJ RANN
Weeeeee! Welcome to the club Geoff!!!

Honestly, it's like snowboarding; it's actually pretty quick to get going but to truly master it will take a while and you'll have more fun playing that probably any other bit of kit you own.

But I've decided I'm going analog now. I'm going to my local hardware store and I'm going to make a monphonic synth:

tehlord
Too.....many......cutoff......jokes......
DJ RANN
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Originally posted by tehlord
Too.....many......cutoff......jokes......


lol.
tehlord
Just enquiring about an ESX1 SD as well...........
tehlord
DJ RANN
So jelly right now. Have you had a chance to jam on it yet?

I love that you can just drop it in record and play away, or program in the steps nearly as fast. The FX are actually really useful on that too. Beware the Arp though - you can loose hours just noodling that part :D
tehlord
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Originally posted by DJ RANN
So jelly right now. Have you had a chance to jam on it yet?

I love that you can just drop it in record and play away, or program in the steps nearly as fast. The FX are actually really useful on that too. Beware the Arp though - you can loose hours just noodling that part :D


Had a brief go so far and it's a breeze to use. All I really need to swat up on is the motion sequencing and chaining pattern sections together.

I was looking for an ESX1 as well but I think I've stumbled across a cheap RS7000 that I'll grab instead. It's got 2 midi outs so I'll be able to sync the TT303 I'm also about to buy with that too ;)
DJ RANN
A good mate of mine used to be a group that made all their tracks just with RS7000's (two connected up).

While they are truly capable of being used to make a track entirely in them, they are really complex and you better be ready to learn that manual inside out. I mean become one with it. The internal sounds are crap but the FX are great, and the only way to get samples in to are via SD card or SCSI drive (good luck lol). There's aquite a bit of menu diving, but honestly, it's probably the most fully featured All in one that was ever made. The senquencer is great and the fact you can run 32 different midi devices from it alone is pretty incredible.

It's a shame you have to program in velocities but then the FX routing is something to behold and can turn even the most mundane sounds in to anything you want.

Again, serious capability but you better get ready to spend the next year or so of your life just learning it.
DJ RANN
This track was made start to finish in an RS7000:

tehlord
That track is really cool. I'm sure the kiddies will think it lacks fidelity and ain't 'phat'. Buy you know, who cares :p

I'm sure there's a learning curve on the RS, but I don't mind that. I'm really into sequencing OTB right now as I find the DAW really kills my mojo, especially when working with hardware.

Ultimately the plan is to route it all through a Midas Venice F32 with a load of pedals and Lexicon/Eventide to futz with too.

Then I'll start making some music.

Maybe.

Looney4Clooney
Hate this side of Edm. You want to make live music, play an actual instrument in a band, everyone using these machines are pretty much the same as a DJ playing obscur ty tracks and putting way too much effort into it.you want to trigger loops, learn to play drums and do it that way. Nobody has ever not looked like a twat in front of these machines. And groove box is an oxymoron.
tehlord
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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Hate this side of Edm. You want to make live music, play an actual instrument in a band, everyone using these machines are pretty much the same as a DJ playing obscur ty tracks and putting way too much effort into it.you want to trigger loops, learn to play drums and do it that way. Nobody has ever not looked like a twat in front of these machines. And groove box is an oxymoron.


I can play an instrument you grumpy turd.

What makes performances good isn't the performance anyway. It's just creating something with a relatively limited toolset (compared to teh DAW) and it sounding decent afterwards. The performance aspect is little more than live automation.

Drummers were replaced with machines in the 80s anyway.

I know because the drummer in my band had a fight with the singer because his kick was replaced with an RX5 when we had a studio session.
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