Originally posted by miamitranceman
Especially compared to the mainstream crap coming out today.
Say what you will, but I find Above and Beyond's radio show to be the closest modern day version of this stuff. Yes of course there are some cheesy tracks thrown in their sets but sometimes you get some good stuff.
Check out Grum - First Contact, as an example.
There might be some odd track coming out of Anjunabeats that is not necessarily 100% trashcan material but the filth pile is just too large for me personally to have any sort of motivation to go through their releases one by one - it's just straight up EDM what's coming out of that label nowadays. It's simply too much effort just to find something mediocre, time spent better on other things.
Someone could maybe share some modern stuff that doesn't sound terrible. I'm after labels more so than singular tracks.
SPANIARD
I guess everyone has their own opinion on what McProg was and wasn't. For me, the Vapour/Chris Micali stuff was never really McProg. I would say guys like Alex Stealthy, Niklas Harding, Andy Moor, Andrew Bennett, Santiago Nino were the prime movers of the sound (circa 2005) and about 90% of their productions would full under that category. There were lots of artists (Ozgur Can is a good example) that would produce a McProg track here and there but it wasn't the main focus of their productions.
miamitranceman
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Originally posted by Kuhis
There might be some odd track coming out of Anjunabeats that is not necessarily 100% trashcan material but the filth pile is just too large for me personally to have any sort of motivation to go through their releases one by one - it's just straight up EDM what's coming out of that label nowadays. It's simply too much effort just to find something mediocre, time spent better on other things.
Someone could maybe share some modern stuff that doesn't sound terrible. I'm after labels more so than singular tracks.
I wasn't specific but I meant Anjunadeep, not Anjunabeats. Deep has been putting out some very good stuff lately. They've got a great roster of producers signed. I went to one of their WMC parties down here back in March and was very solid. Saw Jody Wisternoff, Lane 8, James Grant, and Jonas Rathsman. These guys, to me, are doing the modern day melodic progressive but at a slower and "deeper" bpm. But most importantly they're bringing the melody and atmosphere which is really what made the tracks of the "mcprog" era.
Kuhis
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Originally posted by SPANIARD
I guess everyone has their own opinion on what McProg was and wasn't. For me, the Vapour/Chris Micali stuff was never really McProg. I would say guys like Alex Stealthy, Niklas Harding, Andy Moor, Andrew Bennett, Santiago Nino were the prime movers of the sound (circa 2005) and about 90% of their productions would full under that category. There were lots of artists (Ozgur Can is a good example) that would produce a McProg track here and there but it wasn't the main focus of their productions.
I didn't intend to portrait the tracks I posted as "McProg" I just saw a couple of other people post "this is what I like and this is what I don't like" so I just posted a couple of my favourites.
I do like some McProg as well though. Perry O'Neil did put out lots of good tracks in his time. I highly recommend checking out his Electronic Elements podcasts if you're interested.
Zharen
One question: does McProg also encompass progressive breaks of that time as well? If it does, here's my two top choices.
It's fluffy, reverby cheese, and I luvs it. :cool:
Tom Yelland
Love me a bit of McProg. There was loads around last year as well - likes of Solid Stone, Gai Barone, Vaskallis, Jeremy Rowlett all made really solid progressive trance in the past couple of years.
Scoops
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Originally posted by Zharen
One question: does McProg also encompass progressive breaks of that time as well? If it does, here's my two top choices.
THIS....
Guest
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Maybe nobody likes it on here, but for all I loathe it, minimal techno had a massive and lasting influence on modern house and techno. I've got loads of mates who get misty eyed with recollection of the minimal era. McProg was a comparatively miniscule vicissitude of a genre already in decline. The only reason most trance-heads remember it with increasing fondness is because the trancey-proggy pickings have only got slimmer in the intervening decade.
It wasn't all terrible, but most of McProg still sounds seriously lightweight compared to proper progressive. There were a couple of guys who were doing the twinkly melody + sidechained bass combo very well when it was still a new idea (IE: Luke Chable) but all that Schulz/Andy Moor/Probspot stuff is feeble.
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Luke Chable was king of the 2003 triple-stacked mitsubishi progressive house sound. The bassline in that Probspot - Blueberry track is typical of the era but goddam, it worked! Can't deny how powerful those tracks were on a system. I dont think there was anything McDonalds about it. It was a really kickass sound and I think it aged better than other sub genre's that were popular during the same era such as Hard Trance.
The Prog era was when I migrated from liking ty tunes I heard at commercial Philly clubs, to discovering real, actual club music. James Holden was blowing up back then with the 93 Returning Mix, Kaern Turned, Solstice etc.
I'll romanticize the out of that era because it deserves the congrats. Bombs away!
Zharen
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Originally posted by SPANIARD
I would say guys like Alex Stealthy, Niklas Harding, Andy Moor, Andrew Bennett, Santiago Nino were the prime movers of the sound (circa 2005) and about 90% of their productions would full under that category. There were lots of artists (Ozgur Can is a good example) that would produce a McProg track here and there but it wasn't the main focus of their productions.
Agree. Getting to hear some of these productions, like Niklas Harding-Ice Beach on a loud club system in SF back in the day gave me such shivers and goosebumps, it was great. I was more of a raver than a clubber, but you could catch the odd McProg track or so in some local DJ's trance set. Makes me wonder what Niklas Harding is doing nowadays.
Kuhis
So this album is just getting released, would anyone consider this to be somewhat close to the McProg sound that was prominent in the mid 2000?
miamitranceman
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Originally posted by Zharen
Agree. Getting to hear some of these productions, like Niklas Harding-Ice Beach on a loud club system in SF back in the day gave me such shivers and goosebumps, it was great. I was more of a raver than a clubber, but you could catch the odd McProg track or so in some local DJ's trance set. Makes me wonder what Niklas Harding is doing nowadays.
One of the best tracks from that era.
I would also add any Gabriel & Dresden track from that period. At that time, everything they were cranking out was excellent.
