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| SYSTEM-J |
You're calling someone else a sheep when your entire justification for talking like a cretin is "Everyone in my neighbourhood talked like that 20 years ago". Impressive work.
There are a few points worth making here. Firstly, the race angle. As I've already pointed out, you'd be getting just as much for talking like that if you were white, so the persecution complex isn't really relevant here. Not to condone some of the racist that gets said, but 90% of everything that gets levelled at you is probably because you talk in a racially stereotypical manner (and despite the fact everyone in your high school spoke like that, it is a black stereotype). So it's no more discriminatory than Pretty Fly For A White Guy.
In fact, race isn't really relevant and neither is your street cred. These are nice and easy lines of mockery for people to level at you, but the real reason people give you for how you talk is because it sounds ing stupid. You accuse everyone else of being close-minded for not realising that inner city kids all talk like cretins with one too many Wu Tang albums, but you've got it back to front. You are close-minded for thinking that sounds cool anywhere outside of some teenage graf crew in 1998. You are the one who can't see past the end of the street and realise that to people all over the world, talking like that sounds absolutely laughable.
I could come on this board and talk like the people I went to school with, but I'd get hounded off in five minutes for sounding like an unintelligible scrote. The first thing most smart people realise when they begin to socialise with people from around the world is that your little local vernacular is baffling small-minded gibberish to everyone who wasn't born within 10 miles of you, so you drop it and talk like an intelligent human being. Nothing, nothing sounds more small-minded than someone who speaks an obscure dialect and derives some kind of pride from it, as if the rest of the world gives a about where they grew up.
Anyway, I know this whole post is a waste of time, which is why I didn't bother to type it out for the chicken alt account earlier. It will certainly be lost on you, because anyone who gets to your age and still thinks talking like that is going to impress anyone is someone we file away under Lost Cause. |
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| Alex |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Nothing, nothing sounds more small-minded than someone who speaks an obscure dialect and derives some kind of pride from it, as if the rest of the world gives a about where they grew up. |
I speak two languages and sadly the weirdest experience in any country I've been to (not that exotic, NA and Western Europe) was talking to some dude from Leeds.
I met him at a pub in London and he just started talking to me, but I only caught on to about 5% of what he was saying. I just kept nodding and agreeing with him until (I suspect) he asked me a question at which point I sort of threw politeness to the wind and told him "I'm Canadian" at which point he laughed and started rambling again. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Alex
I speak two languages and sadly the weirdest experience in any country I've been to (not that exotic, NA and Western Europe) was talking to some dude from Leeds.
I met him at a pub in London and he just started talking to me, but I only caught on to about 5% of what he was saying. I just kept nodding and agreeing with him until (I suspect) he asked me a question at which point I sort of threw politeness to the wind and told him "I'm Canadian" at which point he laughed and started rambling again. |
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Haha, Yorkshire people are awesome! One of the best memories I have from London is climbing a monument in Trafalgar Square only to see two guys from York coming after me to take a picture of the Big Ben and have a chat :p
I could figure out what they were saying though. Are the accents different, Jack, or did they take pity on me when they noticed I was probably a tourist? |
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| Sushipunk |
| As far as English accents go, the one that I had the most trouble with was people from Newcastle. ing Geordies, man. They sound nuts :wtf: |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
I could figure out what they were saying though. Are the accents different, Jack, or did they take pity on me when they noticed I was probably a tourist? |
Different to Leeds? Not especially. There is some variation across different parts of Yorkshire, but the nuances would be nigh-on imperceptible to anyone not from the area. I suppose the biggest difference is that York is more a wealthy, tourist-y city so the residents are probably better spoken on average.
Stu is right about Geordies: get a few pints down them and they can be indecipherable. Probably their closest rivals in this respect would be Scousers.
There have been a few memorable occasions where some colloquial wanker has wandered onto TA and tried to ask a question in a "wat u on about m8" stylee and immediately been mocked from all angles until they fled back to their council estate. |
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| Sushipunk |
| I never had issues understanding the Scouse accent, only the Geordies. It's like the English version of Glaswegian, lol. |
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| Jon_Snow |
| quote: | Originally posted by EarnYourKeep
more like my penchant to square up outside of humanities and laguardia back in highschool during the late 90s, when cutting class to hang out at the phunfactory to paint with some crews was a normal thing, you know a product of my environment what I grew up in, not some plush soft suburb with a protected education and hand fed college degree, i worked for all of that earn it the right way and still keep it 100 with my roots
its like these hipsters moving to bushwick wouldn't step foot on those streets in the late 90s hell even the early 2000s. yall dont know what its like getting pulled over in those hot spots, cooper, wood, dyckman, academy, post, sunnyside all true nyc hotboy spots if you been around you know the deal
probably just equally mad a kid who grew up in the hood ended up with a college degree and a professional career doing hotboy yall aspire to do today.
BAAAAAAAAAA boy status |
I feel like I just watched Rush Hour with Jackie Chan trying to play the black guy's part. Seriously step away from the shoe polish. I used say "dude" in high school. Time to grow up. |
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| rainbowunicorn |
| System-J screams of egotism. So, black people talking is talking like a cretin? People talking in inner city is talking like a cretin? In which specific example is EarnYourKeep speaking in a black stereotype and not being himself? Pride has nothing to do with it, or at least not in this case. More like System-J has a personal problem with this than about EarnYourKeep. |
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| rainbowunicorn |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jon_Snow
what's your old account I'm sure swamper can restore it if it is really as you say. |
I said I had many accounts. Don't keep track of them and don't care, so I can't remember what user names they were. After a few months, I probably won't remember this one either. |
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| rainbowunicorn |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
The fact that you keep coming back. |
Because I want to post my thoughts? Like what an internet forum is intended for? Wouldn't alts etc be focused on trolling a person? whereas I'm more concerned about the topics I posted about : DJing, religion, language and culture |
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| rainbowunicorn |
| quote: | Originally posted by Alex
Yeah you see this is what I don't understand...
It has to be an internet thing. The fact that we cant actually see these dudes or hear their tone of voice and stuff maybe.
I mean if I went to a small party that happened once a week and everyone there called me a butthurt fag and pointed out how annoying i was i doubt id keep coming back. |
So, this place is a private club? not an internet forum open to the public for people who like or used to like trance music?
You should meet System-J and start a private party together. |
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| rainbowunicorn |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
I "seem" ignorant?
What experience do you have living or dealing with the Chinese?
My wife is Chinese, my son is half and I have almost 5 years of living in Asia under my belt.
Ignorant?
I also speak Chinese (HSK level 4) and have studied the culture.
You eat General Tso's chicken once in awhile.
Call a chopstick a chopstick and a spade a spade.
I also listened to hip hop for a great portion of my life. I have many black friends. I don't insult them by pretending to be something I am not. Your musical choices and surroundings don't affect who you are so much as personal choice.
This guy went along with the crowd and wanted to be "cool". He failed. |
So you're not being sarcastic or trolling? 5 years of experience?! Wow that's a lot, to understand Chinese people and culture and speak for them.
General Tso's chicken in China?! Wtf?! That's got to be a joke.
Depending on the age or old mentality of the white men, but white men marrying Chinese women (or Asian women in general), treating her and viewing her as a sex slave, as a maid and a cook, feeling entitled to speak on behalf of Chinese (or Asians) or entitled to be racist, just because he has a Chinese (or Asian) wife, has got to be a stereotype or a cliche. |
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