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How do you do drugs "responsibly"? (pg. 3)
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erikwh
e*master - I can't seem to reconcile what you say with you avatar.. what's going on?
dEsidEL
but how can ppl dose in moderation when one isn't absolutely certain as of the contents in the pill ..

true , u can get it from someone u know, but then they have to know the person they get it from, and etc..

like u could say take 3 / month or something .. then one day u get a bad pilled laced with some kinda lethal and end up in a coma or something? yea so basically that's what i don't understand .. whereas say with some regulated drug ie. cigarettes, u know exactly how much tar and chems are in each pack so it's a fixed volume .. but with E ?? :conf:
Durafei
quote:
Originally posted by E*Master
I don't see why one needs to do drugs to have a good time. The music should be the drug and not some pill or powder.

I personally don't do or need drugs to party and have a good time. Plus, I can spend the money on drugs on something better. Like Vinyls :D


One doesn't need drugs to have a good time. True. But drugs provide a different, unique experience, which feels absolutely amazing.
Going sober has it's advantages(the main one is that you actually
remember what happened during the party), and being high also
has it's advantages(being much happier). Unfortunately being high
has a lot of disadvantages....
erikwh
quote:
so basically that's what i don't understand .. whereas say with some regulated drug ie. cigarettes, u know exactly how much tar and chems are in each pack so it's a fixed volume .. but with E ??


it's ironic that the community would like regulations on drugs that the state has deemed illegal. it's hard reduction through according to them.. which is no drugs at all! too bad politicians dont hang out on these boards. here is some food for thought..


"What we have to ask ourselves is: How do we rearrange all of this so that, in an ideal world, people use less, but if they do use, there is the smallest possible amount of damage," he said. NDP committee member Libby Davies, whose riding includes Vancouver's drug-ridden Downtown Eastside, agreed "the establishment of safe-consumption sites are urgently needed."

from http://www.canada.com/national/story.asp?id={3F40F0F1-E2CC-4
loconet
quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL
but how can ppl dose in moderation when one isn't absolutely certain as of the contents in the pill ..

true , u can get it from someone u know, but then they have to know the person they get it from, and etc..

like u could say take 3 / month or something .. then one day u get a bad pilled laced with some kinda lethal and end up in a coma or something? yea so basically that's what i don't understand .. whereas say with some regulated drug ie. cigarettes, u know exactly how much tar and chems are in each pack so it's a fixed volume .. but with E ?? :conf:


this helps most of the time......Know your dealer, test the pill, research about the pill's batch, and then make the dealer drop it b4 you do!


The best way to do drugs in moderation (specially xtc) ..is to don't do them as regularly (YES YOU CAN CONTROL THIS!!). Think about how much money and fun times you'll be wasting if you start doing 5 pills a night every weekend and notice that the effects are not the same as when you started!!:sadgreen: Don't do them as regularly. .. 3 drops / years, 5htp before and after,Vitamin C, lots of Bananas & milk, and it'll be like loosing your e-virginity every time :D

Drugs are there to enhance the experience but you can defiantly have a *great* time without them even if you've done them b4 or not!!
Durafei
Where do I get a hold of that 5htp thing everyone keeps talking about?
brunette
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Originally posted by Durafei
Where do I get a hold of that 5htp thing everyone keeps talking about?


whereever they sell vitamins.. like a healthfood store, I don't think they have them in shoppers and such drug marts. It costs around $25-30 for 90 pills
E*Master
quote:
Originally posted by erikwh
e*master - I can't seem to reconcile what you say with you avatar.. what's going on?


Are you one of those ppl who has E on his mind so much to the point where he/she see the letter "e" they automatically assume it is realted to drugs?

The E in my name has nothing to do with drugs for your information. ;)
u4ic_bliss
you guys have made some good points about this and it seems like you all know why you are doing these things
awareness is the most important thing in this case

now for my personal opinion on this:
i've been partying for a while now and i've never had an urge to take a pill
i dont even like to take pills from the doctor when im sick
i can't remember the last time i've had an over the counter pill either
i partied lots and watched my friends take lots of stuff
it kinda disturbed me to watch them like that but what could i do, im not in control of their lives
i drink ocasionaly and thats about it
i feel like i preserve my brain more this way and it's less hassle
i don't have to sneak around with pills or herbs
i've never been high in my life and i really don't feel like im missing anything
when i go to a party im so high on the music that im usually dancing on the floor longer than all the ppl im with that are high

i live, breath, eat, drink and indulge in trance

but that's just me
i also respect anybody elses decisions even though
you might not share the same view as i do, i dont look at you in any different way
mariachickita
quote:
Originally posted by E*Master
Are you one of those ppl who has E on his mind so much to the point where he/she see the letter "e" they automatically assume it is realted to drugs?

The E in my name has nothing to do with drugs for your information. ;)


what does it stand for then?:sadgreen:

E*Master
quote:
Originally posted by mariachickita
what does it stand for then?:sadgreen:


That is something that remains a mystery ;)
dEsidEL
quote:
Originally posted by loconet
this helps most of the time......Know your dealer, test the pill, research about the pill's batch, and then make the dealer drop it b4 you do!

The best way to do drugs in moderation (specially xtc) ..is to don't do them as regularly (YES YOU CAN CONTROL THIS!!). Think about how much money and fun times you'll be wasting if you start doing 5 pills a night every weekend and notice that the effects are not the same as when you started!!


but again it brings me back to my original question .. if u take say cigarettes, and u end up with some serious illness smoking just ONE, u could file a lawsuit against the tobacco company and probably win.. but if u take say one wrong E pill and land in a coma or possibly dead, u can exactly sue ur dealer..

so what i'm getting at here is that how come a lotta ppl say that it's possible to take E responsibly when there's potential to take a single wrong pill and end up really sick or possibly dead.. ?

i mean say 9 outta 10 times u'll likely be fine, but is that minute possibility of injury really worth the risk .. ? :conf:
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