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djeso
such harsh comments are painfull

I honestly don't know what to say about this mala dude

but obviously he has a psychological problems with being self-obssessed and very ignorant. Further more, rascism is a punishable,
and shouldn't be tolerated.

PEACE LOVE UNITY

ESO
dEsidEL
there are probably a million other guys out there who are saying the exact same thing as this guy .. the problem is that u can't stop them all , but they will all get their dues when the time comes like everyone else. this is one of the reasons why i don't like getting involved in political debates online anymore cuz usually it doesn't end up going anywhere and there will always be ppl like him in this world who you can't reason with ..
TheDemon
quote:
Originally posted by morsy
dont worry demon message refered to melech bla bla whats his name


Its all cool. I had a notion you were reffering to that idiot.
hardcore trancer
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Originally posted by discojoe
I have seen far harsher comments from arabs, Arabs who's parents came here to this beautiful country in search of a better life and now their children living here spit on it and the western world full of hatred. I dont understand it. I am not a racist and I know the problem in Israel is caused by both sides. The Isreali government should never have put their settlements on palestinian lands. And much of the land in the area has far more Christian religious significance than either of the two. Neither one deserves the land more than the other and there have been injustices from both people. But until the Arab world starts to condemn their fellow 'brothers' for brutaly assasinating innocent women and children and stop making excuses I will not support the Arab cause.

The way i see it it's very simple. If the arabs were to stop the suicide bombings today, the Israeli's would end their military occupation of palestine. If the Israeli's stopped their military occupation today as much as we would hate to admit it and as we have seen in the past the palestinians would not stop their attacks.
I simply do not see any other alternative for the israeli government other that to go after the terrorist organizations that are killing their people and being supported by the palestinian government. I would not expect any government to sit by and do nothing while their families were getting slaughtered.

This debate however could go on forever. But i dont think this is really the place. I come here to talk about music. A common love that unites us all. Lets try to keep these issues away from the music discussion.


well I agree that this is not the right thread to talk about these issues,but dont foeget that these problem excist,and simply by ignoring them wont do any good.I think it is time for everyone to wakeup,and come out and apeakup.We all have to work together beofore it is too late.and u people keep saying why suicide bombing??
well lets see how would u fight your enemies when u have nothing to fight with.what??with rocks??I dont think so,and how come Isreal could use their fancy weapons or their f-16's(thanks to the U.S.)
You telling me thats fare???whatu gonna tell me yes because Isreal wants to protect it's citizens??
so what bout Palastinians protection??mmm apperently they cant get any weapons from any country,suicide bombing is terrorism.
so WTF are they suppose to do??

Melech Mike I really wish u find peace in your heart,and try to be more realstic,because people like you wont do any good to solve the currrent problems in middle east.I wonder if your leaders think the way you do with so much hate??
and because of your comments and attitude on other threads,in the Politics discussion room they are now closed.:(
TheDemon
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Originally posted by torontotrance
I'm not picking sides because frankly I'm sick of all this fighting and war because two sides cannot find a compromise. You could go on and on about each side being wrong but I will point out "HOW MANY MORE INNOCENT PPL HAVE TO DIE?". When will people realize that no one wins in war. I think all of you need to wake the up and stop blaming one side. Takes two to fight....and this hatred you keep going on about solves nothing. Neither side is correct and can't they find peace?


Dude, thats my point. Thats why that malek dude is an idiot. Iam muslim, I don't hate the jews. But I said that both palestine and isreal are both at fault for their problems. Its a shame that people like malek really screw it all up with their dumb oponiions.
Durafei
The big difference between Israelis and Palestinians is that Israelis at least TRY to target terrorist organizations, while Palestinians only target civilians..

Palestinians WILL NEVER EVER EVER get anything from Israel, until suicide bombings stop, it's as simple as that. Those who sponsor terrorist acts don't want to have a country called Palestine, they want complete elimination of Israel.
Durafei
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Originally posted by TheDemon
Dude, thats my point. Thats why that malek dude is an idiot. Iam muslim, I don't hate the jews. But I said that both palestine and isreal are both at fault for their problems. Its a shame that people like malek really screw it all up with their dumb oponiions.


Malek is not the one who wrote the original message. It was melech_mike. Malek simply quoted it.. Reread his post.
DJ El Kay Dee
ok i havent read many of the other replies to the initial post but heres wat i think

initially i thought ahlamalek was blabbing..which made me surprised that a Syrian(im assuming cos of the flag) would post that...but whoever this melech_mike is, he sure as hell is stupid cos he has no support to his extremely racist and unacceptable comments on a board that doesnt really support war and where we have israelis and palestinians communicating with each other with no problem... i refuse to take any sides on this war cos im not from either country this poster is obviously just a firestarter so i suggest everyone ignore his pathetic existence.

there are many like him who post only to cause trouble..just ignore them
TheDemon
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Originally posted by Durafei
Malek is not the one who wrote the original message. It was melech_mike. Malek simply quoted it.. Reread his post.


Yeah sorry Malek, I really ment Melek mike.
Ckerr812
The only thing that pisses me off about this situation in the middle east is that the Muslim religion is being hijacked by extremism and moderate muslims are taking it up the ass.

It's not up to isreal or America to get rid of these terrorists, it's up to the muslim people and the guvernments, there religion is being hijacked and twisted, and if they don't do something about it, then the rest of the world will have too. It's not a matter of right and wrong anymore in the middle east, people who kill innocent women and children are evil...plain and simple, and it must be stopped. The only way to defeat darkness is light, and that light needs to come from inside islam (stop the bombings), if then other religions will have to step in and save islam from extremisim, then so be it.

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All these people that don't take sides, I don't agree with at all. A resonable man by not taking sides yes, but it's not the resonable men that decide the fate of people as this quote explains:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-George Bernard Shaw


You have to take the side of good, just because people are dying miles away and you don't think it will affect you here, it will, and it dosen't mean you should care anyless then if it was happening in your own country, there is to much emotion and hate clouding the judgement of the people causing the mid-east crisis, and when that happens it is just human nature to fight....it's who we are, and you need to take sides on issues, or people will control you for the rest of your life.

rabbitjoker
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Originally posted by Durafei
- Arabs do want the destruction of Israel(how else do you explain the numerous wars started during short-lived existance of Israel?) Palestinians(but not all other Arabs) kinda "have the right to want to destroy Israel", as many of them were kicked out of their own land when Israel was formed.


I don't want to take sides, becuase I think that all violence is wrong and people should talk, talk and talk more before they kill innocent civilians... War is between armys not between cilvilans....

Bottom line, violence is not the answer, no matter what "name" is the cause..

Stop the violence, work things out - and enough of the killing - I for one am sick of it, no matter what side does it....

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Side note: Keep in mind that Israel defended itself in a few wars, using _WAR_ tactics [not involving civilians (specifically speaking Siria/Egypt/Lebanon] -whether or not American weapons were used by Israel to win the wars - everybody had the opportunity to make a case for an ally.

If anybody decides to "liberate" or attack another country or state, it must be done using common _WAR_ tactics, not terrorism - bottom line.

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Not saying I condone violence and war - I don't, I'm just sick of feeling sick about the arabs, jews and christians dying (in that region) when they're not involved. Let government and armys attack - not common people.
Ckerr812
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Originally posted by rabbitjoker
I don't want to take sides, becuase I think that all violence is wrong and people should talk, talk and talk more before they kill innocent civilians... War is between armys not between cilvilans....

Side note: Keep in mind that Israel defended itself in a few wars, using _WAR_ tactics [not involving civilians (specifically speaking Siria/Egypt/Lebanon].

If anybody decides to "liberate" or attack another country or state, it must be done using common _WAR_ tactics, not terrorism - bottom line.



It sounds like you just took sides to me ;) I agree with you totally, the point is not if isreal is right or palestine is right, the point is killing innocent people is wrong...and that's the side any decent moral person would take, no matter what the cause.
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