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To all Mp3 Dj's!!!!! (pg. 2)
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| TraNceFaN |
| quote: | Originally posted by goodnet
I agree, that DJing with stolen music for money is a wrong thing. but, no offence but you are only directing this to MP3 Djs (probably because you are closed-minded about mp3-djing in general), but wtf about the DJs using CDs with mp3s burned to them? Its the exact same thing, just different interface.
What Peekay mentioned, where the music might be too expensive for some areas... It's easier for a DJ in europe (or whereever the music costs relativly cheap) to say you should pay (really you should), but I bet when you live in an area where the music is hardtoget and unreasonably expensive- its easier said than done. This doesnt apply to me tho, I live in Toronto.
Yes there are cheesy programs like Traktor, MjStudio, BPM studio, etc etc which people use for "Djing". W/VTT however (here i go about VTT again!)... using it to mix manually with the jogwheels and pitch sliders alone requires some skills. But alas, too many people put down the software because of it's age and lack of "c00l" bpm features.
Oh do tell us about some wanker getting paid to do mp3-DJing. |
Let Peekay do his own thing I know he doesnt care much,cuzz its simply ur own opinion about 'wankers' mp3 djs...=)
btw http://www.native-instruments.de/en...news/cebit.html
I would recommend reading a few articles on that link.We r moving on,and who knows...one day djs might be using mp3's,dont go insulting me on that cuzz I know most of u will disagree.Well,thats my point of view. |
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| goodnet |
| quote: | Originally posted by TraNceFaN
Let Peekay do his own thing I know he doesnt care much,cuzz its simply ur own opinion about 'wankers' mp3 djs...=)
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I wasn't directing that to Peekay at all, it was a sarcastic comment towards Ckerr812.
Im not against MP3 DJing, im for it.
The real issue i have here is people DJing stolen music to make some steady cash, nothing more. |
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| Ckerr812 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Peekay
As for freezing PC's, thats what a CD player is for as backup. But so long as you get your OS running smoothly you shouldn't have to worry about it.
Well, thats my input: I dont have any problems with what I do simply because its the only way I can do this! I will hopefully one day invest in decks and move up in the ranks but for a 17 year old student with no income this is a good start.
PLUR :)
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So your saying here is, if you have no money (student, homeless) it's alright to steal?
And as for the music not being availible were you are, that's total BS, I live in St.Catharines and drive an hour to Toronto each weekend to get my records....and half the time the stores don't have what I want....I find creative ways of getting my records....I have DJ friends on ICQ in the UK that send me stuff all the time....
BTW, there is an Mp3 DJ in St.Catharines here.....(i will not say his name) but people from my community know who I am talking about....that plays for next to nothing.....that takes away money from the real DJ's that have an overhead of Decks and vinyl to pay for, and for that reason they can't play for peanuts..... |
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| skywarp |
Peekay that still doesn't justify earning money by playing stolen music. No matter what you say it will still remain wrong in my eyes.
Another thing to all the computer DJs, don't you think you look like a dork up there in the DJ booth clicking the mouse and staring at the computer screen. A DJ should have his head up all the time looking at the crowd and shouldn't be focused on the screen. And guess what motivates people to go off, somebody working the vinyl on a pair of decks or some kid clicking around with a mouse ?
Goodnet, yes I agree playing burned CDs that have been ripped off MP3 is just as annoying and morally wrong. |
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| Tony Morello |
| quote: | Originally posted by skywarp
Another thing to all the computer DJs, don't you think you look like a dork up there in the DJ booth clicking the mouse and staring at the computer screen. A DJ should have his head up all the time looking at the crowd and shouldn't be focused on the screen. And guess what motivates people to go off, somebody working the vinyl on a pair of decks or some kid clicking around with a mouse ?
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i adree with you on that one
when i spin, i get right into it
the crowd feeds off that energy, if the dj is going nuts, the crowd will to
ever see mark eg or max graham play, mark eg is nuts, and max graham just gets visibly overcome by the music
the crowd loves that stuff, they love to see the dj get right into it too |
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| DJTJ |
To throw in my two cents (if we collect all the two cents, Peekay might be able to afford some decks sooner!) -
I am an MP3 DJ. However, I wouldn't dream of trying to make money out of it. Yes, I'm a student, no, i don't have any money, but there is no way i would ever do parties for money. I do it simply because i love the music, and i like to do tapes to listen to in the car etc. Even if i did want to get money out of it, I still wouldn't do it at parties, for fear of looking like a twat and being called a computer nerd in front of birds at the party.
I apologise to any artists i may have inconvenienced by downloading their music rather than buying it, but hey, a fair percentage of it I have downloaded from here anyway. :-)
Agreeing fully with goodnet, there is skill required to use VTT, which is why i don't use programs like Traktor. I like to think that i'm actually doing something with the music, something that not any 5 year old could do. Once i'm done with Uni, and have a proper job, the first thing I'll do is buy decks, and I hope the skills i learnt with VTT will help me pick it up quickly.
One thing i'll never do though, is try to make money out of it. Even when i do have decks and legitimately buy vinyl, DJing is just a hobby to me, and if i do parties then they will be for mates for free, because i enjoy doing it.
So there. |
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| fastmp3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by skywarp
FASTDJMP3:
You're SO talking out of your ass. The vast majority of electronic music labels are very small ventures and are financed by the artists themselves. They can't afford to lose sales (unlike the big labels - ie. Sony and the likes). By pirating their music you are DIRECTLY harming the people who make and distribute it, making it unprofitable for them to continue doing what they're doing. Do you seriously think that the artists shouldn't get a compensation for their work ? Do you think that their bills are getting paid by ther love for music ? Get real - there's absolutely no excuse for stealing music from the artists you say you admire so much. Last time you bought a CD was in 1999 ? And you're proud of that ? Wow !
Get a damn job and buy your music, you spoiled brats ! |
First i don't have a vinyl player or whatever the you call it , i don't have a credit card , i've never purchased something from internet , and i don't have money to travel or have fun this summer (even right now i can't go out and party all week ends) , so before u start insulting people by calling them "wankers" or i don't know , respect the others point of views and positions.And please don't tell me that u've never used Napster or downloaded records that u don't own in an original CD.Take a look at what's in your computer , i'm sure u know what i am talking about ...
You're the one who must cry a river , if the artists and label companies don't get a lot of compensation , why are they still working ? trust me they get HIGH compensations ... unless you're a bad artist or a bad manager.And yes i'm proud of myself because i didn't spend a buck on a record since 1999 in this capitalist world. |
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| Ckerr812 |
| Please don't get into arguments here....that's not what the thread was intended for (although I realize the irony of how confrontational it is)....know one was insulting you personally...so don't take it like it's a direct insult at you. |
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| djslate |
When Mp3 mixers are doing far worse to the dj scene then stealing music (which they are doing....)
You might not realize this....but the fact that mp3 mixing takes no skill.....I've tried vtt and I found it 10 million times easier.....You really don't have to do anything....
push a couple buttons wooohoo....i almost feel the same way about cdj's
anyway back to the point....
the fact that mp3 mixing takes no skill means that in future....we might not even have dj's?
why?
because you might as well throw on a ing cd.
think about it.
people like to idolize people for great accomplishments....good dj's worked hard as to get where they're at and now with mp3 mixing....
with the ease of it....
it doesn't seem to matter anymore....
imagine danny tenaglia using mp3 mixers?
he'd probably just sit there and laugh.
ask himself if he's really doing any work at all.
whatever |
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| goodnet |
| quote: | Originally posted by djslate
When Mp3 mixers are doing far worse to the dj scene then stealing music (which they are doing....)
You might not realize this....but the fact that mp3 mixing takes no skill.....I've tried vtt and I found it 10 million times easier.....You really don't have to do anything....
push a couple buttons wooohoo....i almost feel the same way about cdj's
anyway back to the point....
the fact that mp3 mixing takes no skill means that in future....we might not even have dj's?
why?
because you might as well throw on a ing cd.
think about it.
people like to idolize people for great accomplishments....good dj's worked hard as to get where they're at and now with mp3 mixing....
with the ease of it....
it doesn't seem to matter anymore....
imagine danny tenaglia using mp3 mixers?
he'd probably just sit there and laugh.
ask himself if he's really doing any work at all.
whatever |
K whatever buddy, I think you are getting a little outlandish by saying the DJ scene will be hurt by mp3 mixing. Stop whinig your ass off, mp3 will never become a bigtime DJ tool for those serious about DJing. Why? Because it serves no real advantage over tradition DJing tools like vinyl. However, for those who just want to dabble w/mixing (or dont yet have the resources to get gear).. it is dirt CHEAP, and lets you get into the basics of mixing (vtt does this the best imho). Sooner or later ill get a parttime job to buy real dj gear, because ive already learned some essentials from computer mixing. (and read on, because these "essentials" are not the button-pushing thing youre thinking of).
Also, youre little bit about VTT; I beatmatch in VTT manually, simaler to using my fingers to slowdown/speedup a record on a TT's platter, I would rotate the jogwheels in VTT to do that... and use the pitch slider to adjust the speed of the track if i find its too slow or fast. When doing this, autobpm is never used, the matching is done solely with the ears. This is very different from the real gear- no doubt about it, but its the closest you will get to a "dj experience" on a pc.
All other mixing programs, like traktor or whatever, would be valid for the "ohh wow i pushed a button" comment.
I've seen the dumb "what if[insertbignamedj] started using mp3s huh??" arguement before. That is completely irrelivant, because mp3 mixing is really for those who:
a) joe sixpack users wanting to make personal mixes
b) want to learn basics about mixing
c) dont have resources to get real gear, or just arent serious enough to get real gear. |
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| TraNceFaN |
come on now MP3 Djing is just a in hobby for me =)
I dont buy I dont make money of it and I dont expect anything and certainly I am not going to do antyhing,by not having my own t/tables anything at all....... |
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| fastmp3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by TraNceFaN
come on now MP3 Djing is just a in hobby for me =)
I dont buy I dont make money of it |
Same here buddy , i don't make money of it |
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