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Recording Mixes (pg. 2)
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| bassaholix |
Think of it as playing it for your life's sake.. lol
ORRRRR...
Ur playing for a larger crowd.. just try to delete it from your mind... hmmm now where's that delete key.. lol |
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| Narcissus |
| Best thing to do is just record everytime you practice and you'll get used to it. |
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| Arsalan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Narcissus
Best thing to do is just record everytime you practice and you'll get used to it. |
Or don't even think about the recording and just have fun. |
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| Gourhellyea |
| quote: | Originally posted by onceler
it took me almost 6yrs to realize that when i am recording and something fux up... i can just pick up the needle and redo that transition and then edit in the computer. it is one thing if you are recording a "live" cd, but if you are making one to pass out to pees you deem as important for your career or what not, i feel it is better to give them a quality cd of "live mixes" than a less-than-par "live cd". also, if you do that while you are mixing.. it is easier to get the levels right.
on the latest cd i just made, i didnt like how the last 3 tracks were situated, i just went back and rearranged, added, and deleted a few back there and viola, done... rather than going back and re-recording the mix.
just my opinion |
thanks for the comments guys, i was away for the weekend so i couldnt check up till now but yea its nice to see im not alone. when im spinning for fun everything is good and i dont usually mess up but when it comes to recording i get all anal and try to match the beats perfectly cause things are more noticeable when you are listening on headphones rather than on speakers turned up loudly. if it comes off just a tiny bit i try to correct it and end up totally trainwrecking. im trying to record my demo right now so needless to say i want to be perfectly satisfied with it. maybe the above quote is the easiest and least aggravating way... how would i go about doing this? can i use soundforge or what?
Tracklist: (some old, some new, lots of vocals for those who dont like or dont know about trance)
1 Infusion-Legacy (Junkie XL Remix)
2 Hybrid-Visible Noise
3 Starecase-Faith (Loafer Remix)
4 Midtone-Pearl
5 Lustral-Broken (Pitch & Sulfur Remix)
6 Sun Decade-I'm Alone (Ronski Speed Vocal Mix)
7 John Askew-New Dimension
8 Mona Lisa Overdrive-Born to Synthesize (Neo & Farina Dub)
9 Nu-NRG-Supersonic
10 Second Sun-Empire (Original Mix, much crazier than pvds mix imo)
11 The Astral Projection-Pure NRG |
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| JohnSmith |
yeah, that's what i do too!
tracklist looks nice, i love staircase - faith, it's such an easy record to mix! |
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| sebjr |
| quote: | Originally posted by Narcissus
Best thing to do is just record everytime you practice and you'll get used to it. |
exactly right. i didnt use to like recording but now i do it just out of habit. eventually you dont care if you up..because you only think of it as a record for the future to learn...when you start forgetting is when you do some really good clean stuff :) |
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| Narcissus |
| quote: | Originally posted by onceler
it took me almost 6yrs to realize that when i am recording and something fux up... i can just pick up the needle and redo that transition and then edit in the computer. it is one thing if you are recording a "live" cd, but if you are making one to pass out to pees you deem as important for your career or what not, i feel it is better to give them a quality cd of "live mixes" than a less-than-par "live cd". also, if you do that while you are mixing.. it is easier to get the levels right.
on the latest cd i just made, i didnt like how the last 3 tracks were situated, i just went back and rearranged, added, and deleted a few back there and viola, done... rather than going back and re-recording the mix.
just my opinion |
How is that possible? What program do you use? CAn you please give me detialed info of how that can be carried out!?!? I'm desperately in need of getting my mix cd done but i'm so tired of re-mixing same tunes in order over and over just because one beat fell out of matching...HELP!! |
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| benoitfan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bear4569
I have noticed that when you are recording, everything sounds great live, but when you listen to the recording the beats maybe off just a little bit, not a whole lot, but enough for you to notice them. I find that very frustrating. For that reason and you know you are recording, so it's like somebody is watchin you like a hawk and you don't want to mess up. So I feel the pain of making a recording. |
Yep, I'd love to know why that happens. Most of my mixes sound great when I record them and I go all happy re-listening them to make the reviews and the beats are always slightly off :whip: and even on my headphones they look perfect. Weird really!
As for the second part (feelin' like somebody is watching you) you really gotta think that only you will be listening and there is no pressure. At least that's what I do! :) |
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| onceler |
sorry.. i was away from my computer and internet the whole weekend so i didnt get a chance to respond.. here is how i do my mixes..
i use soundforge 6.0 to record the mix in, if i know i have screwed up a mix on the fly, i will pick up the needle and put it down right before the last breakdown occurs that is unmixed. i will then start my mix as usual and continue on, repeating this for each mix that i mess up.
once i have finished the cd, i then will goto soundforge and edit it down. first, i remove the mess-ups, you can zoom in so good that you can have an exact chop and will be totally unnoticable. the bennifit of doing this while you are mixing as oppossed to later is you can get the volumn exact, therefore, the wave will be pretty much exact, and it will be 100% easier for you to chop it up.
once i have removed all the erronious parts of my mix, i then go through and trim it down to 80 mins, this usually means removing repitions of the middle of songs, or chopping off the end somehow (or beginning).
i then burn the cd (w/ tracks) and listen to it a bit. remember to make sure you save the full, 80-min wave file in one piece until you are 100% sure that is the mix you want. after listening to it, i then go back and re-edit anything i dont want. on my last mix, i re-edited the last 3 songs. to do this, i went to the 4th-to-last song and pitch-ed matched the record to the cd, then recorded it in. the hardest part of this is to get the volumn correct. to splice the 2 parts, just do as above, find a breakdown and go from there. i use breakdowns because the sound is really low or no sound, and i find it to be less altering, especially if you dont have the volumns matched 100% (you can adjust volumn w/ the volumn "filter" of soundforge).
after i have my mix 100% the way i like it, i take it into Cool Edit Pro and remove any hiss, or noise, or crackle or anything like that. the reason i told you to save the full mix as 1 wave file is for this reason, so you can bring it into cool edit as 1 file. also, if you have to do any re-editing, it is easier w/ 1 file.
after cool edit is done, i bring it back to soundforge, redo my markers (as cool edit messes them up), conver the markers to regions, and extract the regions for the final copy. (if i had the new cd architech, i wouldnt need to do the region extraction).
once i have my regions, i bring the parts into nero, making sure there is 0 seconds between the tracks. i then name the tracks w/ the proper artist & track title, and burn the cd.
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hope that helps a bit, if you have any specifics that werent covered above, just pm or reply
-mike |
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| Narcissus |
| I'm new with soundforge. Could you tell exactly what function/button to use? For example when chopping the unwanted transitions that you have corrected it? Once you've chopped it out does the whole thing get fixed into one file straight away or do we have to bind the 2 parts together? |
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| trancearmada |
damn it i was away on the weekends as well but I have been stuggling trying to record my mix, all the things said by the people here are so true, I had to use soundforge too get my mixes right, i just spent 2 straight days doing nothing but mixing and recording and editing! So in frustrating! I have a few slight ups that I can live with so I guess this is gonna be my demo after all!
I will put it up online sometimes soon, to see if you guys like it!
DJ Armada - ProgresSlider 33 (Live Turntable Mix) - 03-03-03
01. Yaz & Miko - Axell [Edit Rec. (Canada)]
02. Tom Wax - My Definition (Pascal F.E.O.S. Remix) [Phuture.Wax]
03. Agora - Radio City (Oxia Remix) [UMF Records]
04. Ross Couch - System Check [Bellboy Records]
05. Bitcrusher - Vision Sucks [Telica Communications]
06. Sharp Boys - The Race Track (Digistar Remix) [Duty Free]
07. The Box - African Drum [Byte Records]
08. Corvin Dalek - Pornoground [Flesh]
09. Kiko - Worldcup (Version 2.0) [Sekence]
10. Brian Zents - D-Clash (Slam Remix) [Intec]
11. Chrome Dioxide II - Concious (Kaylab Remix) [Headline]
12. Nitro - It's All About Music (Original) [Red Alert]
13. E-Craig - Drum Beats (E-Craig Hard Dub Mix) [Sunrise Rec.]
14. Martin Eyerer - Rhythm As Such (Filterheadz Dub Mix) [Sumo Records] |
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| onceler |
if you wanna hear my recent mixes.. go here
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=93371
for my most recent, i changed around the ending tracks a day later than i recorded, and i think i edited 1 of the mixes on the fly when i was recording.
for soundforge... here is what you need to do
- record your mix in
- go back and put a marker (hit "M" to make one when you are playing your mix back) at the beginning and end of what you wanna cut out
- 2x click inbetween the markers to highlight the area you want deleted
- hit delete
note: this will created double markers on some spots, you will need to delete these and all markers that are not at track breaks when you are done editing
now, if you have not done yet, create a marker at each track break (including one at the beginning and 1 at the end
i think in the TOOLS -> PROCESS menu, there is an opiton "Markers to Regions" <-- do that and you will see the red markers are now white
In one of the right pull-down menus (sorry, cant run sf at the moment on this computer) you will see something that says "Extract Regions" <-- run this and pick a place to save the regions. this will create a wave file for each track, this is also what you burn.
note: now you will have 2 copies of your mix, your 80-min wave, and your chopped-up mix, you can delete the 80-min file if you are certain you are not going to edit anymore. i also, when doing my mixes, create a folder just for that mix and put all the wave files for that mix in there.
hope this helps |
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