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Gimp
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Grästorp
Unhappy how do i get this kick & bass tight`?

well i have many ideas involving trance but to transfer them from my mind thru my fingers in to the computer is harder than i thought hehe...

but my biggest problem of all is to get a fat kick working together with a rolling bass...can someone here help me...

this is my shitty clip:

http://www.geocities.com/soundclips1/clip1.mp3

and i want the kick to work together well with the bass like it's doing in this clip:

http://www.geocities.com/soundclips1/clip2.mp3

can someone help me?

Old Post Mar-17-2004 12:20  Sweden
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Jay M
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: The Hague, Holland

Can't hear them right now. But i think i know what you mean. Maybe someone can post anything about *sidechaining* the bass (and does anybody know a good software compressor with this ability??)

I'll listen when I'm back home. Bass is hardest to fix, but very important to fix IMO.


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Cryogenic
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: .no

Don't know if its tighter, but iv'e eq'ed and some other stuff, but both your bass-kick and the bass-line is 'softer' than the other one too.



http://home.chello.no/~cryogen/clip3_eq.mp3


Cheers

Last edited by Cryogenic on Mar-17-2004 at 12:52

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Azza Robinson
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Leicester

wot did u use for that b-line? what vst or preset?? sounds top


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Compression might help, but the kick and bassline in the second clip are both a lot deeper sounding. The kick in the first clip is a lot weeker than the second which is a reason why it sounds softer.


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Damie Mckeown
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: England, Liverpool

I aint listen to the sample but I saw the word Sidechaining and I have to say.

EVERYONE FIGURE THIS OUT AND USE IT COS IT ROCKS THE HOUSE, k
I love side chaining


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Jay M
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quote:
Originally posted by Damie Mckeown
I aint listen to the sample but I saw the word Sidechaining and I have to say.

EVERYONE FIGURE THIS OUT AND USE IT COS IT ROCKS THE HOUSE, k
I love side chaining


Say Damie, why don't you tell is some details about sidechaining. If you won't, others will.

Do you use soft- or hardware btw. I need a software compressor with sidechaining ability... badly, so I can start experimenting with it


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mize
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Södermanland

make a submix. take a compressor.. and set rato to 2:3:1 tholde to -20, attack 10 ms and reless to 50ms..

and it well be ok..

and sidegain is for!.. ***** and radio

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Damie Mckeown
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I use logic which has a Side chain option on its noise gate and Compressor plug ins.

Basicly you send the kick to a bus and then sidechain the compressor/gate thats on the 'for example', Bass channel to side chain of the Bus.

The kick will trigger of the settings of the compressor/gate.

and If you use a prefader option you can have the effect when the kicks actualy muted, FUN!!, great sound.

All of Daft punks tracks are sidechained.....erm, which is good if you like their soundz


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acell
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Melbourne

quote:
Originally posted by Damie Mckeown

and If you use a prefader option you can have the effect when the kicks actualy muted, FUN!!, great sound.



this is what i'm trying to do in fruity.. trying to get a bassline like in thomas rubin - cold night (dj scot project mix) but i just can't get there.. i'm using the wavles native platnium vsts..

anyone know how i do this? I now understand that i have to use the sound from source 1 (the kick) to triger the comp settings to mute source 2 (bassline) and raise the attack on the off beat (as the kick fades out?? or just with the attack settings???)..

now, how to i link the two? and can i mute the kick as stated above?

anyhelp would be much apreciated!!!

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josh
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Singapore

Cubase SX 2 do not have Side Chain mode right?


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DJ-Fuq
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quote:
Originally posted by acell
this is what i'm trying to do in fruity.. trying to get a bassline like in thomas rubin - cold night (dj scot project mix) but i just can't get there.. i'm using the wavles native platnium vsts..

anyone know how i do this? I now understand that i have to use the sound from source 1 (the kick) to triger the comp settings to mute source 2 (bassline) and raise the attack on the off beat (as the kick fades out?? or just with the attack settings???)..

now, how to i link the two? and can i mute the kick as stated above?

anyhelp would be much apreciated!!!

Have u tried using the peak controller instead of a compressor?

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