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jacheatamobits
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: home

in art school they tell you to have something to fall back on, when you need $. (i didnt go to art school for that reason)

but realisticly, this is a hobby for me, until my skills improve.

but i take my hobbies seriously.

iv'e been playing guitar for 5 years, so i have a good knowlege of theory, built my own PC for projects of different mediums, (not just music) and owned several "toys" like the MC303, so i have a good knowlege of hardware.

those days of MC303's and turntables are over, and im looking to start promoting on the net once i get a few good tracks.

i always get stuck in the "i need more gear" mode, when what i should be telling myself is "i need more practice"

having someone to jam with is always fun, but i think i'd be better off learning by myself for now.

man, i love these forums, its so expansive here. i need to get cracking on my PC.

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pho mo
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Darwin

I'm not sure about making money from music, although it does sound great!

What I can tell you is, being in the games industry, is that it is very immature and fickle. I'd say making money out of games is possibly as difficult as making money from making records.

While there is a good deal of music getting signed up for games, these days (think GTA3) they are all big names, big well known tunes. Good luck to anybody actually getting their music on a game.

Unfortunately the games industry right now is dominated by a few companies making big hits, the rest of the companies go bust. A massive percentage of games get canned. These companies will not be a secure basis for selling your music.

There is however definitely a lot of work for sound engineers (sound fx etc.) in games.


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jacheatamobits
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Registered: Nov 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by pho mo


There is however definitely a lot of work for sound engineers (sound fx etc.) in games.


yeah, its like, if you dont know how to write code, it seems like it limits you opportunities, especialy in the IT field.

how much work is it to build a VSTi?

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Stephano
tranceaddict in training



Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Belgium

I hope I'll be able to program a synth too one day. I know how to write code, but I still don't know how I can manipulate a sound card... I guess it won't be easy though.

On topic: I don't think creating music should be a profession, but more of a hobby. If it were a job, you would probably lose your motivation in music after a while, lowering the creativity of your tracks.

By the way, I don't really think you can earn much money in the music business, unless maybe you're a world-famous Dj or something. Most of the dj's have second jobs too I guess. And even if you would earn a lot by producing/dj-ing, how long will you keep it up? I mean, in 20 years or so, trance will probably be nothing more than a memory. (Do you still see the Beatles on television?) You'll need another job to fall back on. No, I think you should keep trance as a hobby and enjoy it now, while it lasts. Look at it on the bright side: trance is here and now, and so are you!


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dbl
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Gothenburg/sweden

quote:
Originally posted by Stephano
By the way, I don't really think you can earn much money in the music business, unless maybe you're a world-famous Dj or something. Most of the dj's have second jobs too I guess. And even if you would earn a lot by producing/dj-ing, how long will you keep it up? I mean, in 20 years or so, trance will probably be nothing more than a memory. (Do you still see the Beatles on television?) You'll need another job to fall back on. No, I think you should keep trance as a hobby and enjoy it now, while it lasts. Look at it on the bright side: trance is here and now, and so are you!


you can earn ALOT of money in the music business.... but probably not in the trance scene hehe

but what you said about trance only being a memory in about 20 years or so... i don't really agree.. offcourse it wount sound the same... just as the beatles.. offcourse there isn't much beatles on TV anymore.. and there will probably not be much AvB, Tiesto etc... etc... in 20 years.. but the trance style will probably just evolve.. just like every other genre does.. well.. most atleast...

but i'm 99% sure that music will only be a hobby of mine... the last 1% i leave to the chanse that i for some reason make some type of track that will give me ALOT of money so i hardly need to work anymore... but that's not a big chanse i guess... hehe
but who know's.. there's people that have made one hit track and lived on the money from it.. so the chanse isn't 0


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Massive84
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quote:
Originally posted by dbl
you can earn ALOT of money in the music business.... but probably not in the trance scene hehe

but what you said about trance only being a memory in about 20 years or so... i don't really agree.. offcourse it wount sound the same... just as the beatles.. offcourse there isn't much beatles on TV anymore.. and there will probably not be much AvB, Tiesto etc... etc... in 20 years.. but the trance style will probably just evolve.. just like every other genre does.. well.. most atleast...

but i'm 99% sure that music will only be a hobby of mine... the last 1% i leave to the chanse that i for some reason make some type of track that will give me ALOT of money so i hardly need to work anymore... but that's not a big chanse i guess... hehe
but who know's.. there's people that have made one hit track and lived on the money from it.. so the chanse isn't 0



i don't know tbh, i don't think trance will die or forgotten.

I think in the last 100 years, few main genres are invented, and those will stay forever.

Pop, Jazz, EDM, classical, Hihop music. and few more maybe

from these main genres, styles came out, and each day people switch from pop to trance, trance to techno, from pop to jazz maybe etc..

i think in the future people will just switch but not a genre will not die that easy.


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Shepless
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Location: England
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I just make music for the sheer fun and joy of doing so, im not aiming to get signed or make money from it really! Doesnt interest me! I just love the feeling and being creative with music, and its also an amazing feeling when other people enjoy what you make!

Shep


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Stephano
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Belgium

I share your opinion in creating music because you enjoy doing so, but I also hope that someday I'll be able to get a track signed. Wouldn't it be great if you were somewhere at a party, and and then suddenly you hear *your* song being played, and you see everybody dancing on it. That has to be the ultimate kick.

@dbl:
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you can earn ALOT of money in the music business.... but probably not in the trance scene hehe

I was talking about the trance scene only before. Of course people making music in other styles can earn alot; just think of pop or rock concerts and so on.


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Jay M
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: The Hague, Holland

quote:
Originally posted by Stephano
Wouldn't it be great if you were somewhere at a party, and and then suddenly you hear *your* song being played, and you see everybody dancing on it. That has to be the ultimate kick.


I'd go nutsss.

It's the greatest to see that people enjoy your music. It motivates, makes you want to make more more more


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