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Originally posted by 1mason11 Hi Mate, like i already told u this is great stuff.the break is awesome,really melancholic and like u said dramatic.pro track.u get better and better.keep it up. Riialto

Thanks mate! Glad to hear you really like this. You are one of my most important critics and I value your opinion as a DJ a lot.

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Originally posted by Terry Barker nice and clean, not my cup of tea this stlye but well produced. keep it up, terry

These compliments are very nice, when people do not like the style but still like the production

Nice big kick and bass but there's way too much reverb on the bass, makes it muddy below. Open hat sounds a bit raw, try to put a crisp tiny open hat on top, should sound better with that. Gated pad/lead is just great, nice 'dramatic' feel. Break now. The filtered thingy in the break is just a tad too slow, it doesnt really fit imo. Breakbeat is a bit too simple, hehe you dont get away with it that easily Doesnt really suit the track. Melody is ok man. Overall nice work.

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Good strong start, straight into it. Hihats are crisp and full. Bassline is fairly standard for this type of track.
Plenty of harmonics in all the elements.

Sounda at 1.20 starts to repeat feels kinda wrong at first and then when the chord changes come in, its all very beautiful.

2.00 This is feeling very PvD circa '99.

3.00 Not much progression, but everything is feeling extremely well balanced.

3.15 Ahh... the breakdown almost on cue I dont think trance can ever escape this. Not a criticism, more of an observation. Flows into it very nicely though.

3.30 Nice sweeps and sizzling pads. Great fx here if a little typical of this style.

4.46 The break is a bit of a let down. I think you let the cat out of the bag too early with the melody. Going from a breakbeat into a 4/4 pattern is a bit of a jolt too.



This track had a lot of the right ingredients, I just think the arrangement still needs some more work. If I were to give one comment it would be less breakdown... more drive. Dont build it so hard and then maybe it wont feel like it lacks power after the break.

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Nice track mate, I like the gated synth - but the bass has too much reverb, although i like its sound. Percussion is nice too - sounds very upfront and bright....at the breakdown now - strings are very nice - but you need a big low string there to widen the break up a bit...melody is nice - but im not a fan of the breakbeats ...I like the song when it breaks into the main 4/4 part - but I feel you could do with a louder bassline when it does..but overall nice track.

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Thanks Ricky, Jay M and Axo for the nice reviews. I will definately work on the reverb on the bass and lower it. I just hate flat basses but indeed I will listen what difference it makes in the overall sound when I lower the reverb on the bass.


And Jay M, my breakbeat too simple , auwww that hurts I did not really intend to make a real breakbeat but just a little retro beat to go with the strings. And I do realise it is pretty simple

For a start, I personally wouldn't really call this "dramatic", but hey I suppose it's a matter of how you interpret both the word and the music.

Quite a cool track in general, melodies are nice although I don't find them particularly exciting myself. But obviously that's all subjective so I'll move onto commnets on production now

Production-wise the levels are all good and the whole thing sounds "well-packaged", if that is a suitable term... you can hear everything clearly, it sounds quite full etc.

I think what it could do with is more attention to detail on things like the percussion, pads, fx etc. e.g. introducing more one-off hits - I know you've added some sounds occuring once every 4 or 8 bars but I think it would really benefit from some more 'un-classifiable' sounds as part of the groove - I don't think it needs any more rolling ryhthms (well, maybe just one or two with midrange sounds) but things that occur once or twice in a bar which sound more rhythmical than incidental.

Again, with your sound effects you've got (sweep sounds etc), I think the fact that they're so few and far in between they just sound like they've been thrown in for the sake of it instead of being part of the track, in parts at least. Personally I'm not a fan of the quite high thin sweep you've used in a couple of places (occurs at 3:21) - as it's the only sound effect there, it just sounds really weak on it's own... a much thicker sweep sound would work a lot better I feel, or use that over the top of other effects etc with a lot of reverb to kind of merge it in with the other sounds...

I know you've got a lot of cool ideas so I'm really looking forward to hearing your future stuff, but there are certain things I feel you need to work on to make your tracks sound more involved. That's a good word, think it's quite applicable - make it more involved

Just my few cents/pence/centimes/sen worth

Your mark... 5/10

(Scale: 0 = don't bother, 1-3 = needs work, 4-5 = nearly there, 6-8 = releasable, 9-10 = outstanding)

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Thanks Stu for your review. I agree up to a certain level that my track could have more depth by adding effects and percussion. It is something that I am becoming more and more aware of with each track I produce. However I do start with melodies because I think a good melodic structure with good bass and kick are the main ingredients for tracks to be played by Dj's. When on a dancefloor I truly do not listen to swooshes or little percussions in the track, I listen to the groove and melody. But that probably differs for everyone.

I am surprised that you are the first one who actually likes my previous track "Mesmerize"(an 8 on your rating system) better than All Hope Is Gone as this new track sounds more mature I.M.O. But that is the lovely thing about music and people: everyone has his/her own taste and preferences

Nevertheless I value your comments a lot and I know I will put in more effort on next tracks.

Cheers!

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Originally posted by Nomen Nescio Thanks Stu for your review. I agree up to a certain level that my track could have more depth by adding effects and percussion. It is something that I am becoming more and more aware of with each track I produce. However I do start with melodies because I think a good melodic structure with good bass and kick are the main ingredients for tracks to be played by Dj's. When on a dancefloor I truly do not listen to swooshes or little percussions in the track, I listen to the groove and melody. But that probably differs for everyone. I am surprised that you are the first one who actually likes my previous track "Mesmerize"(an 8 on your rating system) better than All Hope Is Gone as this new track sounds more mature I.M.O. But that is the lovely thing about music and people: everyone has his/her own taste and preferences Nevertheless I value your comments a lot and I know I will put in more effort on next tracks. Cheers!

It's not necessarily that people specifically listen out for the swooshes and every single perc hit etc, but it all builds the feel of a track... paying attention to these things can make your track as a whole sound much more polished and interesting, even if people can't put their finger on exactly why this is.

And yes, everyone has their own opinion and of course my marks aren't entirely consistent

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soft and simple,does the job very well

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simple and straight to the point just the way i like it and as someone else said earlier what labels like too.

i feel you've kinda gone for the airwave sound which i love btw, deep and emotional

i love your melodies in this one, bass lacks drive and power thou think as someone said theres too much reverb on it, should keep it mono. the synths are nice too real easy on the ear, but i think they need more space to breath they'd be hard to hear on a loud club sound system and you want the listener to be able to grasp the melody.

that breakdown was wonderful i loved that gated effect pad, i dont even know how thats done maybe you can help me out? breaks was very simple but i thought it worked, you dont want it to be too complex and take away from the rest of the track.

i think you should stick with this one for a bit longer cause i think it has alot of potential, u just need to learn some filtering, volume fades, transistions,fx and mastering then you'll have a gem on your hands

i really like this tune,but have some tips for you..i would put one more top melody over the breakdown,try to better EQ sounds,firstly open hihat..and would not use reverb on that bass..equing will make this tune a hit

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