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Originally posted by BetaFactory Apparently the UK is one of the jurisprudence systems within which you'll have to include that (c) logo to be able to claim the copyright. Is this the case also in the US? Just curious, which other legal systems incorporate this, to me rather foolish idea if you think of the meaning with this whole idea of authorship, "(c)-rule"?

i think that is the law in all countries, simply because you cannot protect your work without giving the person who is going to copy it a statement saying that its yours, which is where © comes in.

it would be a bit like coca-cola not having the trademark sign & statement on the can, then complaining when someone uses the name.

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Originally posted by BetaFactory Apparently the UK is one of the jurisprudence systems within which you'll have to include that (c) logo to be able to claim the copyright. Is this the case also in the US? Just curious, which other legal systems incorporate this, to me rather foolish idea if you think of the meaning with this whole idea of authorship, "(c)-rule"?

In the US, you don't have to write the (c) logo anymore.
That could be good and bad for you not doing so tho.

Bad, because if you haven't copywritten it , then music thieves will not hesitate of ripping you from your own creation and license it as theirs without any kind of prevention.
Note that if you see the (c) logo you'll think it more than twice before attempting to do anything with that track.

Good, because if your production is copywritten, and they steal your idea without even suspecting it, you'll have the pleasure of f*** them up!.



Now I got a question.

If I remix a track just for the fun of it and with the purpose of sharing it here for example, with no lucrative purposes at all.
Can I still get sued for the record label or the artist?

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Great reading and advice

[/quote]Now I got a question.

If I remix a track just for the fun of it and with the purpose of sharing it here for example, with no lucrative purposes at all.
Can I still get sued for the record label or the artist? [/QUOTE]

if it is available on the www it is being distributed and would therefore breach copyrights and yes you could be sued.

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Originally posted by Gibbo893 Now I got a question. If I remix a track just for the fun of it and with the purpose of sharing it here for example, with no lucrative purposes at all. Can I still get sued for the record label or the artist? if it is available on the www it is being distributed and would therefore breach copyrights and yes you could be sued.

But you won't since you are either a bad producer and nobody listens to it and the original producers wont ake notice, or you did a nice remix and in this case since you don't make money out of it the originators will respect you for putting time in it and obviously for being a fan.

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if it is available on the www it is being distributed and would therefore breach copyrights and yes you could be sued.

It's my understanding that web publishing without intent to profit is protected under fair use, though, as long as one acknowledges the copyright owner.

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If you are looking for a subpublisher (one that will expose your music to film, TV, radio, restaurants, etc. in another country) then this is where hundreds of them meet around the world: Frankfurt, at the Music Messe. You bring your music and let them hear it at each booth (each booth is a different publisher from different countries) and then if they choose you, they sign you for their country and you will get royalties from them when your music is used there. I've heard that this is THE place to be to find a publisher. Here is the website:

http://musik.messefrankfurt.com/frankfurt/en/

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now in the UK all this [copyright] requires is sending yourself a master copy via special delivery. this ensures that u have a receipt of postage with a date and signature on it. the cd and inlay must state the copyright statement i.e. "© . All rights reserved". make sure on the package you write which tracks are in the package (if any legal arguments occur u dont get 2 chances in court ). make sure you keep the receipt and the package in a very safe place. another way of ensuring copyright ownership is leaving a copy in a safe deposit box, with a receipt dated & signed by the bank manager. make sure you write exactly the same things as stated above on the cd and package, and keep the receipt in a safe place. i understand that copyright laws differ from country to country, so if ur not sure then make sure you check what must be done!

I live in American and I've heard of the mail-to-yourself copyright tactic before, aka the poor man's copyright.

http://www.copyright.gov/register/sound.html -- This is a site that contains the 'offical' process to get a copyright in America.

I'm not sure about the legalities of the 'poor man's copyright' in America, but is there any benefit of getting the offical copyright? Is the 'poor man's copyright' not a wise way to go about things in America?

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For the offical copyright method, there's the following step:

"a $30 payment to "Register of Copyrights." "

Is that for each track, or every track within the package? Is there a limit to the amount of music in a single package?

The $30 is just a processing fee, and for the entire package. You just have to organzie things neatly thats all. For instance I've put as much as 14 songs on one CD, printed out a track list, titled the collection, and paid only the $30....

I'm not 100% sure but as far as I was told, the poor man's copyright is the wrong way to go in america. Because the package was in your possesion, the courts may not consider it evidence of copyright because you could have easily tampered with its contents. The copyright office provides you neutral "third-party" verification of your copyright, and thats key.

~Mike

Just wanted to clear a few things up on the send it to yourself method. this is NOT a real copyright. This will, however, be enough to start a lawsuit. Alot of judges will indeed not count this as credible evidence since nowdays anything can be found online or on 0day sources. However, if you don't have a few bucks to copyright something, do indeed send it to yourself using mail that will surely include your name and DATE on it. If worst comes to worse then this will be enough to get a lawyer interested in begining the proceedings.

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Something I didn't notice covered here...
If you copywrite something in the US for example, does that mean it is copywriten in every country, or just the US?

From the documentation I've read, many countries have copyright treaties... Which means if england has a copyright treaty with the US, then someone in england could be sued for copyright infringement of a US citizen's work. I'm not sure which country's laws would apply and in which cases though. What I can tell you is that I saw a list of all countries involved in a copyright treaty with the US, and it was HUGE.... UPDATE: Spent a few minutes and couldn't find the doc again, but if you search for "international copyright" you get a few links to read.