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Paul Oakenfold@SYSTEM (08.15.03) (pg. 4)
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGeek
it's usually classic house saturdays @ system, progressive is on fridays...
and to add, oakie is wicked, always has been and will be... only it became cool to hate him in 2001 and almost everyone jumped on the bandwagon... oakie is great, period |
I loved Oakenfold in 2001 - I think I started to dislike him around the time one of my friends told me how much she loved Oakenfold and how her favourite track was Starry Eyed Surprise... :rolleyes: Plus I think Bunkka did it for a lot of people, in 2002.
I think a lot of us don't feel like he is in touch with his fans, that's all. That's saying nothing about his mixing skill (which is incredibly high, I'll admit). Obviously, if he isn't in touch with the fans then his track selection won't be great. That's why I'm not that interested. I don't think it's "cool" to hate him for no reason, in fact I encourage anyone who likes his tracks to go to this. :) I won't be in attendance, though. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by brunette
..it's so hard to care about what's going on here this summer... :D |
Thanks for rubbing it in. :p |
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| TranceGeek |
| progressive djs such as sander k, burridge and howells are considered underground djs and even though they're big in that scene, they do not get as much commercial exposure as do jules and oakie... and it is exactly that scene that brings about all the flamers and haters... and jules is this big only because he's got so many huge commercial labels behind him pushing their releases... otherwise there is no way he would have made it this far... jules has nothing on oakie, absolutely nothing... |
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| TranceGeek |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
I loved Oakenfold in 2001 - I think I started to dislike him around the time one of my friends told me how much she loved Oakenfold and how her favourite track was Starry Eyed Surprise... :rolleyes: Plus I think Bunkka did it for a lot of people, in 2002.
I think a lot of us don't feel like he is in touch with his fans, that's all. That's saying nothing about his mixing skill (which is incredibly high, I'll admit). Obviously, if he isn't in touch with the fans then his track selection won't be great. That's why I'm not that interested. I don't think it's "cool" to hate him for no reason, in fact I encourage anyone who likes his tracks to go to this. :) I won't be in attendance, though. |
although i hated bunkka too, i'm glad he made that bold step forward in reuninting the hip hop scene with the now evolved "rave" scene... if you look at the roots of electronic music, you'll see how in the 80s hip hop and electronica were sooo closely linked and all rave parties included both hip hop artists and electronica... its the gangsta rap of the early-mid 90s that has separated the two and pushed electronica deeper undeground and commercialized hip hop...
the two belong together, and theres nothing i'd wanna see more than electronica commercialized... i'd rather see house/trance producers rewarded for their work than lets say britney and aguilera... and i dunno about you, but i'm sick of seeing/hearing pop stars on tv/radio and would love to be able to turn on the tv/radio and see/hear some house/trance sets and see videos of parties and so on... but thats a whole other topic that has already been beaten to death... heh |
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| TECHno addict |
| People are hating on Oakenfold because of his recent commercial success. The same people who hate him, are the same people posting over and over about how they heard a PVD track (or whatever) on Z103. Commercial popularity or success shouldnt determine whether or not you like a dj, its the music they play, and the level in which they mix it. Im not a big Oakie fan to start with, but would agree with others that his stuff in '99,'00,'01 was a lot better than the stuff ive heard recently. |
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| cap |
| Oakie hasn't done much for me lately, but I still think he'll throw a great party... |
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| TrueToTheCrew |
FINALLY.
this is good to hear. Rumour had it that he was playing guv that weekend.
As long as hes here |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by dEsidEL
if there's one thing i know consistently about this guy .. it's that there's always bashing and controversy surrounding him whenever he's announced to be playing here ..
it's almost like ppl either love him or hate him .. despite all he has done, and has not done for trance .. |
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| TrueToTheCrew |
I have to add that I am surprised how many people disliked Oakeys set last year at guv. I was sober for the most part and thought it was amazing.
I find myself defending his style more and more over the years. Oakenfold is not a dj you listen to once and love. His style has to grow on you. This dj mixes other djs wouldnt even dare to touch. He can take many different style tracks and bring them all together as one amazing beat along with his trade mark flat heavy bass line.
I cant fkn wait.
:haha: Oakey,:haha: Oakey.........:haha: |
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| Resnick |
OMG oakie!!!!!!!!
finally he comes, and he's the greatest, no one even comes close...
gonna be hell of a party :D |
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| DJRocco |
any my turn to say what i think after waiting to hear both sides.
My turn to say what i think: it seems to me like a DJ/producer is only good when they're underground but once they become commercial, it's all over for them. It's like as if they crossed to the other side!
someone brought up the fact that PVD was on z103 the other day even though that's a first.
U guys have to realize those DJs need to connect to the commercial world so they can see what ppl like and don't like. It can also help ur name as a DJ if ur productions are selling well in the commercial world. For example lets take my fav example of them all: Scot Project.
His rmxs and productions sell but he's not the best when it comes to DJing yet he gets booked.
Commercial or not, it shouldn't change the way u feel about a certain person cuz they're doing it not only to help themselves but to help the scene.
On the other hand, sometimes djs/producers become complete sellouts once they start releasing stuff in the commercial world... i doubt this has been the case with Oakie |
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| RyanMarcus |
| quote: | Originally posted by partyprincess
ppl just want to hate on the best dj out there...but truth be told, there hasn't been anyone who can even compare to him technically. not tiesto, not armin, not cox...not anyone. |
I don't mean to unleash with any flaming here, but please know what you're talking about before you talk about it. Oakenfold has been a pillar in the industry, there's no doubt about that. But his mixing, well there are hundreds, maybe thousands, who can do better than he.
And to imply that Carl Cox can't hold a torch to Oakey technically is absolute ignorance. Horse in fact. Carl Cox mixes seamlessly and regularly on three, even four, yes four, decks. Oakey can only manage to work the crossfader between two decks (ie. shamefully short mixes). I won't go into more details, and save the poor guy some pride. |
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