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Paul Oakenfold@SYSTEM (08.15.03) (pg. 5)
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| fantom |
| True, true... Oakie can't even come close to Carl Cox in mixing. Plus Cox can create a sick vibe in any party, regardless of people, place, etc. |
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| Durafei |
Well, I'd be curious to know which Trance DJs often work on 3 or 4 decks. When you find one, let me know.
Having said that, I can't argue who's a better DJ technically Cox or Oakey, because I simply don't know. |
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| TranceGeek |
| quote: | Originally posted by Durafei
Well, I'd be curious to know which Trance DJs often work on 3 or 4 decks. When you find one, let me know. |
excellent point!
ryan, if you want to bring in techno djs into the discussion, then two words, JEFF MILLS!!!! talk about skills, this guy often mixes without even touching the pitch control, (so if he has to slow the incoming track down, he'll slow it down by touching the platter and mix it in, seamlessly!!) and he's famous for it, works off 3 decks all the time, often four... carl cox is good too, but i personally don't like his track selection... |
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| tranced_state |
i agree with the know your before you talk statement
i think the only reason oakie (joakie hahaha) still spins is so he can afford his habbits...sniff...and waste a little bit of time, cuz i honestly dont think that guy gives a about anything other than money and popularity
cheers |
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| TranceGeek |
| quote: | Originally posted by tranced_state
i agree with the know your before you talk statement
i think the only reason oakie (joakie hahaha) still spins is so he can afford his habbits...sniff...and waste a little bit of time, cuz i honestly dont think that guy gives a about anything other than money and popularity
cheers |
with the $$$ he makes by producing music for films AND the cash he picks up from his perfecto label, i don't really think he needs to dj at all, so yeah, know your before you talk :rolleyes: |
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| tranced_state |
you abviously missed the point
and do you really think he would quit spinning?
why would he do that? its to convenient for him. why rely on the money he makes from those other sources when he can make even more money from spinning at the same time.
why do actors act their whole lives?
they become producers, directors and what not...why, they make more than enough just acting...the answer is...they have to support their lifestyle...money only last so long and it only goes so far, than its all gone, especially if they spend it all like most multi millionairs do.
so if oakie spends all the money he makes in a year from his sources other than spinning, than he isw gonna wanna have money left to lead the same lifestyle he is living now...so why not spin and save that money for when he retires
but thats not the point either
the point is he doesnt care for his fans anymore
and stupid s like you seem to love to hang off his nutts for that cuz he used to care and be a quality dj
cheers |
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| Special K |
| quote: | Originally posted by partyprincess
ppl just want to hate on the best dj out there...but truth be told, there hasn't been anyone who can even compare to him technically. not tiesto, not armin, not cox...not anyone. |
thanks for the laugh...!
*lol* |
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| TranceGeek |
| quote: | Originally posted by tranced_state
you abviously missed the point
and do you really think he would quit spinning?
why would he do that? its to convenient for him. why rely on the money he makes from those other sources when he can make even more money from spinning at the same time.
why do actors act their whole lives?
they become producers, directors and what not...why, they make more than enough just acting...the answer is...they have to support their lifestyle...money only last so long and it only goes so far, than its all gone, especially if they spend it all like most multi millionairs do.
so if oakie spends all the money he makes in a year from his sources other than spinning, than he isw gonna wanna have money left to lead the same lifestyle he is living now...so why not spin and save that money for when he retires |
which is EXACTLY the point i'm trying to prove... you can apply what you just said to anyone in the world, why single him out and say something dumb like "i think the only reason oakie (joakie hahaha) still spins is so he can afford his habbits...sniff..."?!
| quote: | but thats not the point either
the point is he doesnt care for his fans anymore |
riiiiight, even if he does, what relevance does it have on our discussion? who cares...
| quote: | and stupid s like you seem to love to hang off his nutts for that cuz he used to care and be a quality dj
cheers |
I could care less about oakie, but its s like you that jump on the flame band wagon that irritate the out of me... if you're going to hate him, thats fine, who cares if you do, but don't be coming on here trying to justify your hate with some lame ass excuses yet having no clue what you're talking about... |
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| TranceGeek |
| quote: | | Originally posted by fantom And I don't know what progressive you're talking about (trance maybe), but the Saturday nights for the last two months have been booked by the progressive/deep/tribal house DJs... Sure, they have a few classic house nights every month or so, but it's mostly good pumping progressive house music on Saturdays. |
umm, no, its not... it's classic house saturdays, progressive house fridays... except for special events obviously... plus morales was there about a month ago on a saturday and i wouldn't classify him as progressive... lol |
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| RyanMarcus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Durafei
Well, I'd be curious to know which Trance DJs often work on 3 or 4 decks. When you find one, let me know.
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They're all but non-existent. The genre as a whole doesn't demand much in the way of technical skill. That said, I can think of one guy who at least was classified as a trance dj, and who utilizes three decks from time to time. Any guesses? Hahahahaaa!
Sasha.
Check out disc one of his SanFran GU. It's a in' piece of art. Probably mixed with Protools mind you, but he sometimes mixes like that live too, and that can serve as a good example of trance played technically brilliantly. As far as I'm concerned, trance dj's are all good and fine, playing one track after another, but none of them today, at least to my knowledge, take it to the next level. None of them involve much in the way of creativity or origniality in their sets. Oakie is a great example of that. He just plays rekkids. Back to back to back, with rarely more than a sixteen or thirty-two beat transition (mix). Trance is all about track-selection yes, but there is something beautiful and artistic in being creative, and trance dj's are notorious for ignoring this. |
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| RyanMarcus |
| quote: | Originally posted by MattVagrant
Oakie is a great example of that. He just plays rekkids. Back to back to back, with rarely more than a sixteen or thirty-two beat transition (mix). |
Hmm... That said, he does this well. Which is the most important part. Just don't go saying that he's technically good as a result. |
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| TranceGeek |
| isn't that how trance is mixed? most likely either 8 or 16 bar transitions... |
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