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US Gay Marriage Ban??? wtf (pg. 3)
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| DrummeRaver86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vesa
To be fair to Weekly Standard after all my bashing, some of its articles at least admit that homosexuality is largely genetic, in contrast to the Christian hardline view of a disease or lifestyle disorder:
http://members.aol.com/gaygene/pages/standard.htm
However, the writer's thoughts on the possible elimination of the effects of the homosexuality gene may have less than noble intentions, leaving open the possibility of illegalizing homosexual behaviour.
So Neocons are moralists who want to separate the issues of legality and biological inclination. |
Homosexuality gene? wow. I always thought there was some small genetic part, but it was mostly due to surroundings and upbringing.:conf: |
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| Eugene |
| quote: | Originally posted by DrummeRaver86
Homosexuality gene? wow. I always thought there was some small genetic part, but it was mostly due to surroundings and upbringing.:conf: |
Nope. That's not true at all.
Homosexuality is pretty much inborn. That's what I think. There are 2 minor exceptions - (1) when the environment consists of overwhelmingly one sex, as in a prison, and (2) experimentation - but pretty much you're either gay or you're not, and you learn about your sexual interests as you develop sexually during puberty. |
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| DrummeRaver86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eugene
Nope. That's not true at all.
Homosexuality is pretty much inborn. That's what I think. There are 2 minor exceptions - (1) when the environment consists of overwhelmingly one sex, as in a prison, and (2) experimentation - but pretty much you're either gay or you're not, and you learn about your sexual interests as you develop sexually during puberty. |
ooo...thanks for that.
Freaky story here...one of my health teachers (can't remember when" told us that her uncle found out he was gay when he was 6 years old, because he started to touch other boys....can you REALLY know at this age? |
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| Eugene |
| quote: | Originally posted by DrummeRaver86
Freaky story here...one of my health teachers (can't remember when" told us that her uncle found out he was gay when he was 6 years old, because he started to touch other boys....can you REALLY know at this age? |
Yes.
Important to note here that a lot of small children have physical games at this age that are not sexual. Everybody does it at this age.
But certain characteristics of sexual preference would already be visible. |
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| DrummeRaver86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vesa
I read somewhere that sexual preference is already visible in the first childhood crush. So a 6-year old boy may well exhibit signs of instinctive sexual behaviour, even without knowing about sexual intercourse.
Sounds quite believable to me. When I was 6, I already had childish but very kinky fantasies about girls' boobs :D |
When I was 6, girls still had kooties. |
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| Dj_Irish |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eugene
Prostitution is legal everywhere except the US and the Muslim world.
It's legal in Europe, Latin America, Canada, Australia, Mexico, democratized Asian countries, ... But not in the #1 democracy in the world. |
It's completly illegal in Sweden. Both buying and selling. As of late Sweden is on some course of zero-tolerans when it comes to drugs and prostitution. These subjects are so stigmatized here there is no public discussions at all about these subjects anymore. |
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| King of Clubs |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj_Irish
It's completly illegal in Sweden. Both buying and selling. As of late Sweden is on some course of zero-tolerans when it comes to drugs and prostitution. These subjects are so stigmatized here there is no public discussions at all about these subjects anymore. |
Yes and its a very stupid attitude imo. They really think they can get rid of all prostitution and drugs. Its like they are blind. They cant get rid of these elements of society in a democracy, no one ever has, no one ever will.
My mother is one of the top dogs in swedish equality politics, I've had this discussion so many times and its like these people are blind. How can you ever get rid of "the worlds oldest profession"? |
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| nic01445 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
I think "in god we trust" should be removed from money because it is religious... and thee are many people who dont even beleive in a god. |
"in god we trust" was added to small coin currency in 1864. thats nearly 100 years after the United States became the United States. in 1908 it became mandatory on all U.S. coins. i'm pretty sure that huge span of time doesnt qualify as the birth of America, so it holds no signifigant hisotrical value, nor is it deeply rooted heritage.
"in god we trust" was added to US bill-currency during the cold war, along with "under god" in the pledge, and "so help me god" in the court oath. it was just anti-commie-atheist propoganda. why should it be kept? |
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| CortexBomb |
The whole God issue is a bit of topic hijacking, but what the hell, it's more interesting to me :D
Call it being PC if you want, but I agree completely with people who say the God references should be stricken from the pledge, coinage, and anywhere else that the government is involved in *if* and *only if* the government refuses to stop saying that church and state is seperate.
While the US isn't flat out one branch of christianity or another it's definitely much more ecclesiastically inclined that Canada or the European Union.
The leaders are christian, policies are formulated with christians in mind, and non-christians are viewed as odd. Not flat out persecuted in most cases, but definitely treated differently.
What *should* be said is that the US *tries* to keep it's religion seperate from it's politics as much as possible, *not* that church and state are actually seperate; the protestant work ethic (You work hard and you'll make good, hence, rich are virtuous, hence heavy taxation on them would be wrong, hence failures are moral failures, hence, failures shouldn't be helped) is as American as military intervention in Iraq, and right now it looks like abortion could be on it's way out again for two easy examples in addition to the thread topic itself.
I'd just like to know who the government thinks they're trying to kid?
Anyone who's been outside the country to other western countries knows that the US is the most religious of the group, far and away. That religious overtone heavily influences world view, politics, and life in the country, and it's one of the many reasons why I'm inclined to leave at the earliest opportunity. |
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| occrider |
| Am I missing something? Is the weekly standard a PNAC publication? |
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| DrummeRaver86 |
| I was always so sure that gay people have like 6 spouses...common knowledge, d'uh!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :o |
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| Dr. Cfire |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eugene
Yes, it is legal in Canada.
What is illegal is pimping. However, sex for money is allowed.
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No its not what is happing is that instead of going after the prostitutes they decided that they will go after the pimps and jhons. In calgary they run a program where they take prosititues off the streets and hold them for 3 days in a halfway house. The idea being it will give them a chance to turn their lives around.
But my point is that prostitution is not legal in Canada they just kind of look the other way. |
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