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How much influence has Trance music on the health of our Ears? (pg. 6)
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| Ghostface |
| quote: | Originally posted by djway
Still hear everything, but not too loud or anything. The plugs I've got are the 85c AU plugs (yellow). I've tried all the others I can get (in the silicon $10) and the 85c work the best IMHO.
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yeah i agree with that. If you go into the club with them in, you don't even notice they're in. But if you've had earplugs in for a few hours and then take them out, the sound is completely deafening. Those yellow ones help you hear the quality better i think. You can hear things clearer and people's voices are also easier to hear. and yeah for $1 it's a wise investment. |
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| w00h00 |
heh
can't believe nobody mentioned yet
http://www.etymotic.com/
music-specific earplugs. If I were to have to be around the loud club music constantly I would definitely invest in these. But yeah, there's a lot to say for just being smart. If you're getting a headache or you are noticing more and more as the night goes on asking people to repeat themselves or talk louder, it's time for a break. Use some common sense, basically. Also a lot of bass frequencies won't really hurt your ears, below 20 you don't hear at all, you just feel. 20-30 is still a lot more heard than felt. 30-50 (where most trance music bass-beat lies) is obviously into a more possibly damaging realm, but a lot less so than highs and mids. That doesn't mean that you just gotta' keep away from those massive horn tweeters, it still can hurt you plenty. But treble is a lot more directional, so sitting off to the side, not in the direct line of the tweeter is going to cut the db level of the highs coming to your ears a ton more than the bass, so it's a way of at least minimizing the most damaging exposure. |
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| THE_Chris |
| quote: | Originally posted by Streakfury
Apparently, every 10 dB that sound is increased by, the energy in the sound doubles. The pain threshold is supposedly 150 decibells, and after that any exposure could cause permenant damage.
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Any qualified doctors in the house?? Professional opinions required me thinks... |
From my Physics course.
If we perceive Sound A as being twice as loud as Sound B, then the sound is ACTUALLY TEN TIMES LOUDER.
ie: A 70dB sound is 10 times louder than a 60dB, even though it only 'feels' twice as loud.
eg: If a club is at ~110db, which is likely, the sound is approximatly 100,000 times louder than a quiet conversation inside a house, which is about 60db.
Now go clubbing. :)
But again, I think as is the rule with everything. Moderation. When you die your ears will decompose anyway, so we might as well make use of them. :) |
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| Haak |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
LOL, tinitus is when you have a constant beep in your ears, nothing can drown the sound. Really terrible and a lot of people have it, some more seriously than others... |
sure you can drown it.... by listening to loud music :D |
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| Trance(PL) |
| Which dj's wear ear plugs? |
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| DJ Mikey Mike |
GiottoDJ and Natron both wear ear plugs.
All these sites listed so far that sell earplugs have all been American based. Does anyone know where i might purchase some from a UK based store? |
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| tall paul 2 |
| Had a uni event last year with Yousef and the uni got bloody huge soundsystem in for the event. My ears were ringing for 3 days after that, and even now when its all quiet i got ringing in my ears. Im just hoping it wont get any louder.. |
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| razzi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ian^
to be fair, if im going to go deaf from music, its a helluva way to go |
amen to that |
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| Lanithium |
theres this one club here in perth, which absolute kills my ears.. unfortunately its also the biggest/best club here and thats where all the big names play.
as soon as i get on the floor after about 10 minutes my ears are extremely painful and i have to leave, i dont know how everyone else in there handles it..
paul van dyk was playing there one night and he was mad with the treble i couldnt hear for a week after.
otherwise my ears are generally fine.. i dj at clubs and i never get ringing or anything..
def gotta get some earplugs for the next event at that club
i have noticed i dont hear as well as i use to.. im always turning things up and having other people complain its too loud when it just sounds normal to me
lets hope medical science saves us hehe! |
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| jåcë |
something I studied in my audio engineering course..
eveytime 3dB is added, it halves the amount of time for "safe" listening
listening to sound at 85dB gives you 8 hours of listening before you suffer permanent hearing damage
100dB (the average club) gives you 15 minutes before you suffer permanent hearing damage! yes 15 minutes
this is pretty scarey considering the amount of hours I have spent in a club in my years (and most of you too)
solution: ear plugs
go see an audiologist who can mould plugs to fit your ears perfectly, these do not affect the frequency response like those cheap $2 plugs you get from kmart or whatever
they cost a load tho.. but its well worth it |
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| zarathustra |
| quote: | Originally posted by djway
Aren't headphones powered by electro magnets? If so isn't there is a small amount of radiation being emmited to cause the speakers to make sound?
My physics teacher once told us about it, but more details would be good :) (or I'll try find my book)
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The problem here would be the electric field caused by the components. It is the same principle behind what makes cellphones allegedly dangerous. You see your brain is mostly water which is a much better dielectric than air. Therefore, the electric field inside your head would be about 80 times the intensity of the field outside your head if you were to put a source, like a cellphone, right next to it. Health problems seem to occur (statistically) for high intensity sources ie: higher leukemia incidence near high tension wires. I have yet to see any concrete evidence that would suggest that a cellphone might also be harmful so I guess I don't have a definite answer. |
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| dj_mdma |
| quote: | Originally posted by jåcë
something I studied in my audio engineering course..
eveytime 3dB is added, it halves the amount of time for "safe" listening
listening to sound at 85dB gives you 8 hours of listening before you suffer permanent hearing damage
100dB (the average club) gives you 15 minutes before you suffer permanent hearing damage! yes 15 minutes
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I'm absolutely ed then :haha: :haha:
100dB is nothing! My car soundsystem at peak is only 130dB, and i usually listen to it near peak :toothless
My mates car during demo's hits 145dB and i've experienced it at full chat, and your ears feel numb and ache and everything is muffled when u get out.
oh well never mind |
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